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To: Olog-hai
What US liberals seem to remain ignorant of is the fact that European-style “democracy” is perfect for setting up tyrannies with toy parliaments.

Agreed. When people at large aren't ready for it, it certainly results in that.

136 posted on 10/16/2014 8:27:21 AM PDT by odds
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To: odds
"Agreed. When people at large aren't ready for it, it certainly results in that."

This is what has happened in a lot of the revolutionary wave of 2011. It is what is happening in Iraq. That's why we have Isis. Because Al Malaki was more interested in being a Shia and persecuting Sunnis. If Iraqi's are to survive, they can't think of themselves as Shia, Sunnis, Kurds, Christians, etc.. They have to think of themselves as Iraqis. Of course, we could have certainly helped this situation by not pulling our troops out and putting pressure on Malaki. The two countries we turned into functioning liberal democracies after WWII (Germany and Japan) had no previous experience with it. We kept troops there, we provided the framework and we pressured the leaders into doing the right things. Look at both of them now. They are our allies and competitors in business only.
138 posted on 10/16/2014 8:40:13 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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