Medical Research Org CIDRAP: Ebola Transmittable by Air

Breitbart ^ | 10/14/14 | Chriss W. Street

[GailA]

0 is off golfing while to very dangerous pandemic viruses are making their rounds in the USA. Ignoring the warnings that Thyphoid Mary taught us decades ago. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/611790/Typhoid-Mary

THIS ONE HAS OUR CHILDREN AS IT’S TARGET!

Ebola is scary; this virus that has paralyzed and killed children is scarier
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/never-mind-ebola-be-scared-of-this-virus-that-has-paralyzed-and-killed-children-2014-10-07

R.I. girl with enterovirus dies of bacterial infection
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/10/01/child-dies-from-complications-related-enterovirus/D4TSUDO3Q0i8H9tllKaXtJ/story.html

Michigan toddler dies after becoming infected with Enterovirus
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/10/13/michigan-toddler-dies-after-becoming-infected-with-enterovirus-68/

Parents Concerned After NJ Boy, 4, Dies Of Enterovirus
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/26711189/parents-concerned-after-nj-boy-4-dies-of-enterovirus

[Blue Highway]

If it mutates while in the US we can name it Ebola Kenya-Hawaii-Chicago after the one responsible for it.

[mazz44]

This is a unknown strain, with slight sequencing variations.

http://scgnews.com/ebola-what-youre-not-being-told

[PghBaldy]

The quote is “has the potential.” FAR different from the Breitbart headline, which says it is at this time. Between Obama and the media, everyone is lying.

[steve86]

OK, thanks, good night.

[caveat emptor]

Most everyone scoffs at the notion that Ebola’s mode of destruction is using up the bodies Vitamin C supplies, which causes, initially scurvy and then vascular tissue failure and death. In theory, Vitamin C could be there, inconvenient treatment that allows our own bodies the time to cure itself.

I couldn't understand what you were talking about until I realized that "bodies" = "body's". Searching on "ebola destroys Vitamin C" I find this:

Moreover, Robert F. Cathcart III, MD, proposes the idea that an Ebola infection is likened to acute induced scurvy, which causes intense internal bleeding and subsequent free radical death. Interestingly, vitamin C is considered the cure for scurvy. In his clinical experience, the high dosage of oral vitamin C (ascorbic acid) required to combat Ebola is unrealistic due to bowel intolerance. However, intravenous sodium ascorbate (at least 180 grams per 24 hours) is an outstanding alternative. A full overview of the protocol can be found here.

My impression is that intravenous Vitamin C therapy is not widely available and can be very expensive.

Do you know anything about it?

[therapsida]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28827091

This happened

[Pride in the USA]

Is it time to panic yet?

[ChicagahAl]

It's ironic that AIDS, with is 100% lethality is treated so casually...

I disagree that AIDS is treated casually. Men who have sex with other men are prohibited from donating blood - much to the chagrin of homosexual activists.

Plus, although HIV can be transmitted sexually, there are certain sex acts that have almost a zero transmission rate, and others which have a high transmission rate. Use of condoms also is a strong preventative, and are widely used. The sex may be casual, but the attitude toward HIV/AIDS is not casual.

Lastly, there are many people who have been exposed to HIV, but never contracted it. I believe that medical researchers have not figured out why some people seem to be naturally immune. I don't think we know yet, whether some people will display a natural immunity to Ebola.

AIDS is avoidable. I'm not sure that Ebola is going to be avoidable if you are unknowingly exposed.

[tired&retired]

“My impression is that we still don’t fully understand the replication and transmission sequences for the various strains of ebola.”

I totally agree with you. Proof that Ebola mutates is evident in the fact that there are currently five different strains of Ebola each with different mortality rates, attributes and symptoms. Apparently is already had mutated considerably.

[Secret Agent Man]

they actually admitted they aren’t sure what happens in animals. which is why it requires finding out instead of just slaughtering everything. and possibly making a worse mess.

[tired&retired]

I find it interesting that the mortality rate is being substantially understated due to the increase in ebola cases and the lag time between reported cases and death.

Since the fatality rate is number of deaths divided by the number of cases, the people who are reported cases and will die in the near future skew the rate.

Quote from article:

"At first glance, it might seem then that only 53% of Ebola cases have been dying during this outbreak - a good deal less than the 80% we've seen prior... But what it really means is that only 53% of Ebola cases have died as of September 8th. We have no way of knowing whether all the people who were still hospitalized as of September 8th will survive the disease. Because of this, mid-outbreak PFC - as we've defined it thus far - doesn't tell us much about the likelihood of dying.

Despite Ebola’s frightening reputation, not all Ebola fatalities happen quickly. Without a little fine-tuning, PFC doesn't account for the lag between when a case is reported and when a case dies - approximately 16 days for this outbreak. What this means is that the 2296 deaths reported as of September 8th were all likely reported as cases by August 23rd. Adjusting PFC for this lag-time gives us a much better approximation of CFR well before the outbreak ends.

Below is a chart that shows both unadjusted and lag-adjusted PFC over time for Ebola in West Africa. The lag-adjusted PFC - about 80-85% - is significantly higher than the unadjusted PFC but is consistent with recent fatality estimates by Médecins Sans Frontières. This finding reiterates the magnitude of this outbreak – not only in terms of scale, but also lethality. In light of this new estimate, a stronger global effort is all the more imperative.

- See more at: http://healthmap.org/site/diseasedaily/article/estimating-fatality-2014-west-african-ebola-outbreak-91014#sthash.5PnefF7D.dpuf

[Secret Agent Man]

well this is where “airborne” kinda is a gray area.

it’s airborne if enough wet/fluid material gets sprayed out in a cough or sneeze. But it’s not airborne like an aerosolized dry anthrax powder designed to be spread by air for maximum dispersal over a huge range, miles.

wet fluid has to get airborne somehow.

basically it spreads like a cold or flu. If someone with a cold or flu sneezes on you or near you, you could inhale some of that aerosolized fluid particles. or if that stuff then lands on a chart, or doorknob, etc, and you put your hand on it, you could pick it up that way.

but just being in a room with someone breathing but not ejecting fluid into the room, probably not considered “airborne” then.

[Stingray]

Anyone else think that the timing of Ebola coming to America is especially convenient for Democrats who need to convince the public that we need Obamacare to save us from this scourge???

When do you suppose that shoe will drop in one of these campaigns or by one of the lefty talking heads?

[DB]

When we exhale, a lot moisture goes out with it.

I think the jury is still out on how this is really transmitted from person to person. A good number of very careful medical professionals have been infected w/o explanation.

[Jack Hammer]

File under News Your President Won’t Tell You.

[urbanpovertylawcenter]

Perhaps the best treatment is no treatment. Just isolation until you live or die.

The way our great, great, great grandfathers did it.

If you think you have Ebola, do not call EMS or come to the hospital, call the government and they will send somebody to help.

Ebola-Stay at home so that others might live.

Hospitals must be an Ebola Free Zone to carry on the work that must be done.

Let the gov build free Obamacare clinics for the Ebola.

This is Obama’s Katrina!

[bert]

There is a solution....... Where are the death panels? Why is an Ebola patient not ruled as untreatable and allowed to die?

[glock rocks]

Think public restroom. Someone flushes their diarrhea, it’s immediately aerosolized, the air and every surface and every person in the entire room is contaminated. One leads to ten leads to ...