Posted on 10/15/2014 1:29:20 PM PDT by jazusamo
(CNSNews.com) - Dr. Tom Frieden, director for the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said during a telephone press briefing Wednesday that you cannot get Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus, but that infected or exposed persons should not ride public transportation because they could transmit the disease to someone else.
Dr. Frieden also reported that a Dallas health-care worker who has been diagnosed with Ebola had a temperature of 99.5 when she flew from Cleveland to Dallas on Monday.
Frieden’s statement came in response to CNSNews.com’s question regarding a video message from President Barack Obama last week addressing Ebola-stricken countries in West Africa, in which the president told residents they “cannot get [Ebola] through casual contact like sitting next to someone on a bus.”
During the conference call, CNSNews.com asked Frieden: “In a video message to countries in West Africa experiencing Ebola outbreaks, President Obama told residents they cannot get the disease by sitting next to someone on a bus. But CDC recommendations state travelers in West Africa who begin to show possible Ebola symptoms, or people who have experienced a high risk of exposure, should avoid public transportation, including buses. We’ve also seen large amounts of concern regarding potentially infected people traveling on airplanes.
“My first question is, did the Center for Disease Control vet this video message before it was released and posted on U.S. embassy websites, and is it true that a person runs absolutely no risk of contracting Ebola on public transportation, such as a bus?”
“Yes, CDC vetted the message, and, yes, we believe it’s accurate,” Frieden responded.
“I think there are two different parts of that equation,” he continued. “The first is, if you’re a member of the traveling public and are healthy, should you be worried you might have gotten it by sitting next to someone? And the answer is no.”
“Second, if you are sick and you may have Ebola, should you get on a bus? And the answer to that is also no. You might become ill, you might have a problem that exposes someone around you,” he said.
Frieden also reiterated that the CDC is currently tracking down and monitoring those who were on the same flight as a health care worker just before she was diagnosed with Ebola.
“Because the risk is so low, we think there is an extremely low likelihood that anyone who traveled on this plane would have been exposed, but we’re putting into place extra margins of safety and we’re contacting everyone who was on that flight,” Frieden said.
Earlier in the briefing, Dr. Frieden had pointed out that CDC guidelines indicate that someone who has had exposure to Ebola should not travel on public transportation.
"Because at that point she was in a group of individuals known to have exposure to Ebola, she should not have traveled on a commercial airline,” Frieden said. “The CDC guidance in this setting outlines the need for what is called 'controlled movement.' That can include a charter plane, that can include a car, but it does not include public transport.
"We will from this moment forward, we will ensure that no individual who is being monitored for exposure undergoes travel in any way other than controlled movement,” he said.
Immediately following Frieden’s response to CNSNews.com, a reporter with the New York Post asked Frieden about the CDC’s monitoring of other health care workers who treated the first Ebola patient in the United States, Thomas Duncan.
“How going forward will it be possible to stop people that treated Mr. Duncan from getting on public transportation?” the reporter asked.
“In terms of controlled movement, that is something that we work out with the state and local public health authorities,” said Frieden.
“At this time, we require anyone who may have been exposed to travel by ‘controlled movement’ only,” he said. “The health-care worker No. 2 who travelled from Ohio on the 13th of October, Monday, should not have travelled, should not have been allowed to travel by plane or any public transport by virtue of the fact that she was in an exposed group. And although she did not report any symptoms and she did not meet the fever threshold of 100.4, she did report at that time that she took her temperature and found it to be 99.5.
“So, by both of those criteria, she should not have been on that plane,” said Dr. Frieden.
But despite claiming the health care worker should not have been on the flight in the first place, Frieden added, “I don’t think that changes the level of risk of people around her.”
“She did not vomit, she was not bleeding, so the level of risk of people around her would be extremely low,” he continued. “But because of that extra margin of safety, we will be contacting them all.”
The update comes more than a week after President Barack Obama issued a video message to Ebola-stricken countries in West Africa, telling residents they "cannot get [Ebola] through casual contact like sitting next to someone on a bus." The message has been widely circulated online and is currently posted on multiple U.S. embassy websites.
On Tuesday, a spokesperson for the CDC told CNSNews.com that it’s “not impossible” to contract Ebola from an infected person on a bus, particularly if the healthy person touches a contaminated object.
“It’s very unlikely,” CDC Spokesperson Kristen Nordlund explained. “But if, say, someone was sweating or had blood and touched a handrail and then you touched it right after, and put your hand in your mouth, it is possible. It’s not impossible.”
“Also if the person vomits on you, that can’t be ruled out,” Nordlund continued. “But to get it that way, there’s not a high likelihood of that happening.”
Dr, Freiden is an internist with a “sub-specialty” in infectious disease. There is absolutely no reason on this earth, except politics, why the person running the CDC is not a top drawer infectious disease doctor/researcher with credentials and training in every avenue of infectious disease, and bio-terrorism. This guy is another Obama political hack.
What a way to go!.....................
Well said.
I think it's a extension of the stooped clock being right twice a day. Frieden sounds smart when he stops talking.
spoken like the fine product of Oberlin College that he is
It has been three weeks and our little hospital in TN still doesn’t have any hazmat suits, masks or protocols.
All we got is a face mask and snorkel with some duck tape and a tarp.
Beings as we are from TN, we know the duck tape is needed to fix lacerations, but what can we do with the tarp, the mask and snorkel?
Could a suit of duck tape, sticky side out trap them little viruses like fly-paper?
Brilliant. Our money at the CDC ain’t been for naught.
They don’t call it The Center For Disease Control for nothing!
This is double talk.. no...its double think
you can not get it on a bus.. but if you have it and are on a bus you could give it to someone??!! .. what do you have to spit out the window on people outside the bus.. but people inside the bus are safe????
LOL!!! Then he dug himself deeper!
“I think there are two different parts of that equation,”
Did Frieden pass algebra?
“Yes, CDC vetted the message, and, yes, we believe it’s accurate,” Frieden responded.
“I think there are two different parts of that equation,” he continued. “The first is, if you’re a member of the traveling public and are healthy, should you be worried you might have gotten it by sitting next to someone? And the answer is no.”
“Second, if you are sick and you may have Ebola, should you get on a bus? And the answer to that is also no. You might become ill, you might have a problem that exposes someone around you,” he said.
His scientific credentials are actually pretty good -- for an Obama appointee. The problem seems to be that he seems to have forgotten everything he learned in medical school, during his internal medicine residency, during his infectious disease fellowship and while earning his MPH.
lol
This is what bureaucracies call clarification.
Orwell had some other ideas.
My southern friends say- don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.
You know a Islamic suicide bomber ..
Who is already planing to die for the cause. ...
If he infect himself with ebola and just waits till he good and sick..
And goes to a crowded area to go boom...
Becomes a biological dirty bomb of WMD portions....
At this point. . How is that not unlikely to happen... with the clowns we have running the show
Can I just ride the bus until I need glasses?
Pretty good credentials aren’t good enough IMO. There are ID specialists dedicated in genetic, molecular, microbial pathogenisis, epidemiological, and ID control and then specialties in each of these, yet OUR CDC director has a sub-specialty in ID.
I’m sure there are many of those barbarians that would love to pull that off.
I have a problem with the first sentence in the OP. Anybody else have a problem with it?
Do you mean something other than his direct contradiction?
But can you get it from a toilet seat??
LOL! Haven’t heard that for years.
Who is this guy... a member of Biden's family tree?
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