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To: V_TWIN

Then you are hearing the WRONG thing, It is NOT an airborne disease. That is a scientific fact.

It is dangerous and deadly, but more people will die of the flu this rear, by a HUGE margin (tens of thousands). Wanna quarantine people then quarantine people with the flu.

The Ebola scare tactics are nothing more than fear mongering control.


24 posted on 10/16/2014 6:48:57 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo
more people will die of flu this year...

Especially now that they'll be afraid to go to the hospital, for fear of getting Ebola and/or of being put in quarantine for their symptoms.

Here's a question I can't get answered: Assume someone who has the flu has also been infected by Ebola. Will the flu symptoms increase the spread of Ebola?

34 posted on 10/16/2014 6:57:02 AM PDT by grania
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To: RIghtwardHo

Fluids can be placed in the form of an aerosol by many different methods besides sneezing and coughing.


36 posted on 10/16/2014 6:57:49 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: RIghtwardHo

Technically, the flu isn’t “airborne” either, but that just screws up your rant.

CDC is arguing over a strict definition of the term “airborne”, yet they also say on their website that individuals are at risk of contracting ebola just by being in the same room as an infected patient.

Not “airborne”? Sure /s


37 posted on 10/16/2014 6:58:16 AM PDT by wrench
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To: RIghtwardHo
Then you are hearing the WRONG thing, It is NOT an airborne disease. That is a scientific fact.

Only in the narrow sense that the virus doesn't float around on its own (maybe). But it definitely does float around in droplets of water vapor that comes from breath, sneezes and coughs. And like the flu virus it remains on surfaces and infectious for hours.

It spreads JUST LIKE a cold:

"How is the common cold transmitted?

The common cold is spread either by direct contact with infected secretions from contaminated surfaces or by inhaling the airborne virus after individuals sneeze or cough. Person-to-person transmission often occurs when an individual who has a cold blows or touches their nose and then touches someone or something else. A healthy individual who then makes direct contact with these secretions can subsequently become infected, often after their contaminated hands make contact with their own eyes, nose, or mouth. A cold virus can live on objects such as pens, books, telephones, computer keyboards, and coffee cups for several hours and can thus be acquired from contact with these objects."

It is dangerous and deadly, but more people will die of the flu this rear, by a HUGE margin (tens of thousands). Wanna quarantine people then quarantine people with the flu.

The flu affects hundreds and hundreds of thousands and has a very low death rate. The odds greatly favor living over death. By comparison, if one picks up the ebola virus the odds are that they're going to die and that everyone else you infect will die too.

45 posted on 10/16/2014 7:05:23 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: RIghtwardHo
the Ebola scare tactics are nothing more than fear mange ring control

Like the 80% death rate for those who contract Ebola. It's right up there with the flu's fatality rate. (not)

49 posted on 10/16/2014 7:11:11 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: RIghtwardHo
I agree that fear mongering is uncalled for. It is true that millions of people will get the flu this year and thousands will die from its complications. If millions of people got this nasty virus, millions would die. It is better safe than sorry, but from a rational position.
53 posted on 10/16/2014 7:25:00 AM PDT by folkquest (I plan on being cranky for the next 4 years. Hope to crack a political smile at the midterms!)
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To: RIghtwardHo

“Airborne” = spread by droplets from coughs and sneezes.

Obama playing word games again.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/15/doctor-ebola-might-be-transmitted-by-air/

Doctor: Ebola Might Be Transmitted In Air Via “Droplets”

October 15, 2014 1:11 PM

Doctor: Ebola Might Be Transmitted In Air Via Droplet

181572784 8 Doctor: Ebola Might Be Transmitted In Air Via Droplets

Doctor: Ebola Might Be Transmitted In Air Via Droplets

DALLAS (KRLD) — The executive director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons says that despite what the CDC is saying, Ebola might be transmitted by breathing.

“What we’re suggesting is that it is very dangerous to assume that one cannot ever acquire Ebola from an aerosol or from breathing,” said Dr. Jane Orient.

Two healthcare workers at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas have now been infected with the disease, despite insisting that protocol was followed. Dr. Orient won’t rule out an airborne infection.

When a patient vomits, has diarrhea, undergoes medical procedures, or even flushes the toilet, “there’s just a cloud that contains pathogen virus particles,” says Dr. Orient.

Dr. Orient says that when an aerosol dries up, droplet nuclei remain suspended in the air for a long time. A recent research study suggests that Ebola could remain infectious in an aerosol for more than an hour.

The droplets are “just too small” to be captured by standard medical masks, says Dr. Orient. A possible solution? Powered, air-purifying respirators for healthcare workers.

“In the laboratory, you actually breath air from the outside, which means you’re either tethered to your air supply or maybe you carry something like a scuba tank that has air that does not come from the room.”

Dr. Orient’s findings directly contradict what the CDC has been saying. They also contradict statments made by President Barack Obama.

Speaking in a video message to the people of West Africa last month, President Obama provided advice on how residents can avoid Ebola. The first step: know the facts.

“First, Ebola is not spread through the air like the flu,” said President Obama. “You cannot get it from casual contact like sitting next to someone on a bus.”

Thomas Frieden, director of the CDC, vetted the message on Wednesday, calling it “accurate”.

“If you’re a member of the traveling public and are healthy, should you be worried that you might have got it by sitting next to someone? And the answer is no.”

However, Frieden did say that Ebola patients do pose a risk if they become ill, which could “expose” those around him.

Dr. Orient also takes issue with the CDC’s conclusion that a person is not infectious until symptoms are present.

“Maybe they are even more contagious before they get symptoms, such as in influenza,” says Dr. Orient. “How can we be sure that Ebola is any different? We certainly don’t have any experimental evidence for it. How do you even know if someone will come down with Ebola five days from now so that you can test if they’re transmitting the virus now?”

Dr. Orient has submitted testimony that will be read at a CDC hearing on Thursday


71 posted on 10/16/2014 8:14:10 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (There's no there there.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

“nothing more than fear mange ring control”

What? :) Heh.


72 posted on 10/16/2014 8:20:07 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: RIghtwardHo

Strangely, an animal caretaker, “John Coleus,” who was doing a necropsy on a dead monkey, cut his thumb with a bloody scalpel, which is a major exposure to Ebola. Everyone expected him to die, but he never got sick. The virus entered his blood stream. The other two animal caretakers, however, did not cut themselves. The virus entered their bodies through “contact with lungs; everyone at USAMRIID concluded that Ebola can spread through the air.” (p. 254)

Peter Jahrling, who actually “whiffed the Ebola and lived to tell about it,” wondered, “Why is the Zaire stuff hot for humans? Why isn’t the Reston hot for humans, when the strains are so close to each other? The Ebola Reston virus is almost certainly transmitted by some airborne route. Those Hazleton workers who had the virus—I’m pretty sure they got it through the air.” (p. 257)

“Pictures of the lungs of a monkey infected with Ebola Zaire are fogged with Ebola. … You can see Ebola particles clearly in the air spaces of the lung,” said LTC Nancy Jaax, chief of pathology at USAMRIID in 1989, a participant in the Reston biohazard operation. (p. 260)

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/08/06/just-serious-ebola-look-history-true-story-ebola-reston-virginia/


75 posted on 10/16/2014 8:33:48 AM PDT by ironman
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