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Why travel bans will only make the Ebola epidemic worse
VOX ^ | 10/15/2014 | Julia Belluz and Steven Hoffman

Posted on 10/16/2014 11:47:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: cripplecreek

Hope and Chage


41 posted on 10/16/2014 12:36:27 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

change


42 posted on 10/16/2014 12:36:40 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: SeekAndFind

Lame!


43 posted on 10/16/2014 12:37:52 PM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s some new kind of stupid you found right there...


44 posted on 10/16/2014 12:39:36 PM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind

This explanation is surreal and defies all logic. Ebola is mostly carried by people. Why not simply not allow admission to the US for all persons holding visas from these infected countries? For US citizens having traveled to these areas a mandatory quarantine. That still leaves the problem of illegals coming across our southern border and that is why I believe Obama is not willing to implement a quarantine. Obama is ignoring the safety of US citizens to further his political agenda


45 posted on 10/16/2014 12:40:40 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: SeekAndFind

My opinion on what to do...sorry about your luck West Africa, we’ll air-drop supplies and food.

We will also be here for advice on how to improve your situation, just give us a call.


46 posted on 10/16/2014 12:42:53 PM PDT by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: Beagle8U
we’ll air-drop supplies and food.

Then watch as they beat each other to death trying to get to it.

47 posted on 10/16/2014 12:45:46 PM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: SeekAndFind
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48 posted on 10/16/2014 12:46:08 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I, Barrack E Obolabama support the left wing's war on Ebola. Fox News & Republicans will fight me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“1. Airport screening is political theater”

Done the way they are doing it, voluntary exit screening, is. The proper way of doing it is ordering airlines to ban anyone with a recent stamp from West Africa on their passport from getting on the plane in the first place. Use specially prepared charter flights to bring any Americans in the area to an offshore facility and hold them in isolation for 30 days before letting them back into the country.


49 posted on 10/16/2014 12:46:28 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Rockitz

I am not able to post the questioning from Steve Scalise, if someone can it is available and definitely worth it. But here is an excerpt, although it doesn’t show the full detail in which he acted and refused to answer.

2:57 pm - Frieden Repeatedly Dodges Questions on Travel Ban Talks with White House - Charlie Spiering
Questioned by House Majority Whip Steven Scalise, Dr. Frieden refused to say whether or not he had discussed a travel ban with White House officials.

Frieden would only say that he “had discussions on the issue of travel” with White House officials but refused to say whether they considered a travel ban.

“Is the White House considering a travel ban?” Scalise asked.

“I can’t speak for the White House,” Frieden replied on two different occasions.


50 posted on 10/16/2014 12:48:15 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: kidd

“..The third reason closing borders is nuts is that it will devastate the economies of West Africa and further destroy the limited health systems there.”

The combined economies of these countries is likely less than that of the Dallas Metroplex. IOW, who gives a damn? As for their health systems...really? Who are these idiots trying to fool? What good docs that they may have had are either dead or dying. There is NO healthcare system to speak of over there, not after what Ebola has done there.

These guys, and anyone that agrees with them, are drooling idiots. Ebola is a Level 4 disease - there simply isn’t a catagory for higher virulence. In the BEST of circumstances it kills 70% of people who contract it, and we still don’t know how EXACTLY it can be transmitted. We know some of the ways, but not all - especially since it can mutate. And it can, has and will continue to mutate. But, somehow, making Americans and Europeans sick will help Africa. WTF, over?

Throughout history, quarantines and isolation are the ONLY ways that work to stop a disease for which there is no cure (and there is NONE here, ZMapp not withstanding). No more hosts, then the disease dies, period. We absolutely need to blockade travel to and from West Africa, except for military transports that airdrop supplies and gear. The gear should all have clearly-written instructions in English, French, the native language and pictures. DON’T expose anyone else where it is preventable.

As to the BS argument that you can’t stop everyone...OK, that is true on its surface. So what! If someone robbed your house last night, do you leave the doors unlocked tonight? WRT Ebola or any other deadly communicable disease, if you can stop 95% of them, then you substantially slow the spread of this plague, giving the more advanced nations more opportunity to come up with a cure, come up with a vaccine, produce new supplies, etc. Help Africa where you can - from both a practical and moral view this is what we can and should do. But DO NOT, EVER, allow the crown jewels of medical knowledge and research in the First World to become compromised; otherwise everyone INCLUDING Africa, will suffer that much more than with a blockade.

These phucktards have just tripled down on stupidity. Since they are very, very clearly doing this for political reasons, I can only hope that a just God and a ticked off American public reward them with a monumental defeat in 3 weeks.


51 posted on 10/16/2014 12:49:06 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: mmichaels1970
"The day they flew that first doctor back here, I knew it was a bad idea. He came here and thankfully got better. But what you did was signal to everybody in that region that their best hope is to find a way, any way, to make it to the U.S. Sending our best resources there to treat the doctor and swiftly imposing a travel ban right then would have been our best chance at preventing what we are seeing today." You nailed that one right on the head.

Wait a couple months, though, to see how much more true that statement will be.

52 posted on 10/16/2014 12:51:21 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: SeekAndFind
In CDC Director Tom Freiden's words, "Even when governments restrict travel and trade, people in affected countries still find a way to move and it is even harder to track them systematically."

What are they going to do, walk here from Liberia? Shut the damn airlines down, now.

Total frustration dealing with these people. This has nothing to do with race, economics, or politics. Isolation of an infected area is JOB ONE. Not doing so because it can't be perfect is stupid and suicidal. Not doing it because it's politically incorrect is worse.

53 posted on 10/16/2014 12:52:27 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: The Great RJ
That still leaves the problem of illegals coming across our southern border and that is why I believe Obama is not willing to implement a quarantine. Obama is ignoring the safety of US citizens to further his political agenda.

No. No way. Our guardian a protector would NEVER do that /dripping, morbid sarcasm I yearn for the day when the American public understands this about ALL issues. EVERYTHING for these bastards is about politics...which is to say, about power over us. We must rid ourselves of this disease (not Ebola, OBOLA).

54 posted on 10/16/2014 12:54:15 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: SeekAndFind

So the only way to reduce the infections in West Africa is to let the infected come here and infect Americans, brilliant analysis. What next, we should fight house fires with high pressure gasoline hoses?


55 posted on 10/16/2014 12:57:37 PM PDT by nomad (Lorenzo)
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To: dfwgator

Oh well.


56 posted on 10/16/2014 12:58:27 PM PDT by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: Hugin
...bring any Americans in the area to an offshore facility and hold them in isolation for 30 days before letting them back into the country.

6 weeks. There was a study showing that Ebola Zaire could take as long as 6 weeks to produce symptoms after infection...and even then as much as 2% of people STILL wouldn't show symptoms despite infection.

EVERY SINGLE THING that this administration and the CDC have said about Ebola is a damned lie - other than saying that it is lethal. Beyond that, if their lips are moving, they're lying (IOW, business as usual).

57 posted on 10/16/2014 12:58:31 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ancesthntr

60 days is fine by me.


58 posted on 10/16/2014 1:01:08 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Billthedrill
What are they going to do, walk here from Liberia? Shut the damn airlines down, now.

I'm beginning to lean toward bombing every runway within 500 miles of these countries. Are you listening, Vladimir?

59 posted on 10/16/2014 1:01:58 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ezra Klein’s foolish vox.com is a travesty. It’s a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham.


60 posted on 10/16/2014 1:02:38 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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