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The case for voting Republicans, even those you think are Rinos
10/18/2014 | chrisnj

Posted on 10/18/2014 4:45:34 AM PDT by chrisnj

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To: wita; VRWC For Truth
Mitt Romney lost because a few folks like you believed everything negative they wanted to believe while choosing to ignore the many positives. Reality bites and you and yours unfortunately are the gift that keeps on giving. To bad you don’t see it.

The customer is always right.

If your product doesn't sell, change your product.

481 posted on 10/18/2014 10:25:01 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Yaelle

RE: Romney...

Thats just like, your opinion man! Because it isn’t based on anything but fond wishes. It’s speculation.


482 posted on 10/18/2014 10:25:22 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Reddy

Vote for true conservatives along and down the ticket and leave the Rinos to fend for themselves


483 posted on 10/18/2014 10:28:32 AM PDT by John 3_19-21 (First let me apologise for being white, and male.)
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To: Yardstick

And replace them with what? Their Republican twins? Because thats what you have been doing for 30 years. And for many I did the same. And I am ashamed of doing it. But I cant change it I can only never repeat the mistake. Passion is meaningless. It’s emotion and that is never good for political decisions.

Don’t ‘feel’ anything. Look at a situation for what it is not what you dream it could be. Elect a liberal RINO and the party gets more liberal. Simple math.


484 posted on 10/18/2014 10:29:20 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: wita

No, clearly is a lib and his actions pushing Abortion and homo crap makes him a POS. It’s pretty factual.


485 posted on 10/18/2014 10:30:22 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: chrisnj

This is kind of off topic, but I can find no other place to ask this question. How are we going to survive as a country the remaining 2 years of Obama’s term? I seriously fear for our future. Thanks and sorry for hijacking the thread.


486 posted on 10/18/2014 10:32:21 AM PDT by Remember Ruby Ridge
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To: Jacquerie

I agree. But if we did that much, the rest falls into place as it was designed to.


487 posted on 10/18/2014 10:32:44 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Yaelle

Romney isn’t on the ticket. Romney isn’t running this time. Romney didn’t ask democrats to vote for him in the primary. Romney didn’t brag about how he was going to crush the tea party.

The issue isn’t 100% purity, nor is it sitting at home and doing nothing. The issue is that there are a few RINOs who crossed the line, and the GOP failed to make a case that they can accomplish anything with a senate victory this election.

Next presidential election, If Cruz doesn’t get the nomination, then I may find myself on your side of the 2016 debate claiming that we cannot afford another round of communist supreme court justices.

This election however, the GOP forgot to run ON something.


488 posted on 10/18/2014 10:32:49 AM PDT by csivils
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To: Yardstick

“Right, because those of us who want to crush the Democrats by any means necessary are just a bunch of RINOs.

I don’t think you guys understand the passion that our side feels.”

That is because we are focused on crushing liberalism and have found that blindly voting R is not a working strategy to defeat liberalism.


489 posted on 10/18/2014 10:35:20 AM PDT by csivils
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To: csivils

“The issue isn’t 100% purity, nor is it sitting at home and doing nothing. The issue is that there are a few RINOs who crossed the line, and the GOP failed to make a case that they can accomplish anything with a senate victory this election.”

they don’t want to address any of that. They just demand you shut up and vote for our problem anyway.


490 posted on 10/18/2014 10:35:30 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

“Elect a liberal RINO and the party gets more liberal. Simple math.”

The argument to the contrary seems like a common core math lesson.


491 posted on 10/18/2014 10:36:39 AM PDT by csivils
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To: Eva; glennaro

I don’t agree with your positions... however, the fact you have made them is a respectful manner deserves acknowledgement.

Well done.


492 posted on 10/18/2014 10:37:49 AM PDT by csivils
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To: Norm Lenhart

Ongoing note to self:

Nearing 500 posts and not a single GOP fan will address the issue of the GOP announcing that a win for them gets Amnesty in America.

They avoided the issue for 500 posts on this thread alone while demanding we elect RINOs.

Folks, these people are frauds.


493 posted on 10/18/2014 10:37:56 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: csivils

Only a liberal would argue contrary to anything that obvious. Only a liberal with degrade themselves to that degree to try and win a point. so common core seems their speed.


494 posted on 10/18/2014 10:39:35 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: roamer_1

Hegelianism laid the predicate for the works of Marx and Engels. Even Marx and Engels said so. They simply stripped God out, and used Hegel’s method of finding the ‘thesis,’ the ‘antithesis,’ and the ‘synthesis.’

Here’s the fundamental problem: Stripped of God, this is a process bound only towards hell. Because, there can be no synthesis between good and evil. Good corrupted by evil is evil, as a bottle of fine wine poisoned by one drop of cyanide becomes a bottle of poison. Or, to use the biblical analogy: ‘A little leaven leavens the whole lump.’

This same mindset has infected the American heart and mind, even in Christian circles. We see it expressed every day now in the political process. They call it ‘choosing the lesser of two evils.’

If folks are tired of seeing their country going to hell in a handbasket they need to wake up to the fact that there is only one possible way to stop it: Quit compromising with evil.


495 posted on 10/18/2014 10:40:15 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Without airplane flights from Africa, the number of Ebola cases in America would be ZERO.)
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To: EternalVigilance

“Quit compromising with evil.”

But they WANT evil. If they didn’t then why at a midterm are they demanding we elect more of it? It’s not that they don’t know the issue. They cannot be on FR and not know the issue. So if they know and they demand we elect evil, then they WANT evil.


496 posted on 10/18/2014 10:42:50 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Remember Ruby Ridge
How are we going to survive as a country the remaining 2 years of Obama’s term?

Trust God and humbly do right.

Only then can we expect Him to once again come to our aid.

497 posted on 10/18/2014 10:43:32 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Trust God and do right. Only then can we expect Him to once again come to our aid.)
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To: Norm Lenhart; Yardstick
-- And as all the converts on FR alone prove, Your positions are not winning the debate.

Mine, and those us evil purists share, are. --

I'm not sure either side is "winning," at least not in a short or medium term. The party faithful are trotting out the old "voter's fault" justification for losing the popularity contest (invoked prosectively as "vote for us, we're not overtly socialist like the other guy"), and predictably, people who yearn for elected representatives that will try to roll back the government, aren't buying in.

That's a broad brush, and of course there are exceptions (Cruz, Sessions, LePage). It's up to each candidate, and to some extent, the party itself, to come up with a message that gets it into power.

I wonder about the political debates in countries like Venezuela, Russia, Iraq, etc. that had free and open elections. I bet the same sort of empassioned arguments occurred there, too. Fat lot of difference it made.


498 posted on 10/18/2014 10:46:50 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Well, Today, more people than ever are publicly saying ‘Never again’ will they go the lesser evil/no matter what route. It’s a start.

And some of those people fought tooth and nail with us last election. They admit it was a mistake to help further the GOP liberalism. So it might not be any rousing victory yet I freely admit. But it’s moving our way.

Ergo, we are gaining, not ceding ground in this insanity. this crap never should have happened. Conservative values are not a ‘living document’.


499 posted on 10/18/2014 10:51:27 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Yardstick

The passion you feel is pure emotion that is being exploited by those who are simply using you. “Something must be done” has been the battle cry of despots since the beginning of time. Doing “something” has resulted in the continued march to destruction.

When you are on the wrong path, continuing is the worst action. Passion cries for you to continue, but principle compels you to do what’s right. Liberalism is driven by passion, AKA good intention, but conservatism is driven by principle and the need to make the hard decisions when it needs to be done.

Aligning yourself with corrupt party politics may give you a temporary emotional boost when “your guys” win, but it ensures that those whom you profess to oppose maintain their control. Putting party above principle can only have one outcome: a party without principle.

Those of us on the other side have just as much passion as you, but it is tempered by reason and a belief in values that transcend the fear of the moment.


500 posted on 10/18/2014 10:55:56 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (When the passion of your convictions surpass those of your leader, it's past time for a change.)
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