Posted on 10/18/2014 4:45:34 AM PDT by chrisnj
Many conservative voters are disillusioned at the Republicans for not standing up for their principles, for compromising with the Democrats, for having no spines etc. etc. They vow not to vote for the Republicans, or outright vote for the Democrats, to send them a message, to teach them a lesson. I think this kind of message/lesson serves no purpose but to cut off your own supply of oxygen.
Almost all the Republicans rejected obumbocrap (obamacare) but Harry Reid and his crooked Dems jammed it through deviously. The House Republicans have passed many legislations to repeal obumbocrap but Reid et al killed them all. The House Republicans have passed many good legislations but Reid and his crooks buried them all. The media blasted the Republicans on all their good constitutional/conservative acts, but remained silent on the Democrats' constant acts to destroy the constitution. This is a known fact and all of us always complain about it. Yet we are not showing any understanding of the difficult situations facing the House Republicans. While the Dem voters are behind their Dems 100%, we are demanding perfection while offering no help. We blame the Republicans for this and that but we are not working hard to create an opportunity or situation where they can stand on their principles and serve us faithfully. Why don't we vote them into majority in both House and Senate, so they have more control and feel less pressured to compromise, but more encouraged to listen to us to enact constitutional legislations for the good of the country. This is not excuses for the Republicans' non-performance. It is simply a fact that a good person can only do so much under difficult situations! We should understand that it is human nature to be rather weak, especially when under pressure. But given the favorable situations we are more likely to stand up taller for our principles. Remember when the Republicans were the majority in both Houses - even with a Democrat president Clinton, Congress was able to serve the people well! So if we are able to vote the Republicans into the majority, we just might be able to influence them into reversing the course to get our country back on the right track. Considering that many people have awaken and patriots are much more enthusiatically engaged in shaping government policies, we can realistically hope to get better leaders who will listen to the people again. All we need to do is unite and vote the crooks out but vote the acceptable albeit imperfect Republican candidates in, then work hard to influence them...
Certainly, with rampant voter fraud, ignorant and low-information voters, AND, the conservatives who vow to stay home or vote for the Dems, there is no hope that the Republicans will be in control of both Houses. It was said that those conservatives who wouldn't vote for the Republicans are part of the reasons why the Dems won the elections. So these conservatives are in effect cutting off the supply of oxygen to their own hopes (and our hopes)!
History suggests that the Republicans are more constitution-abiding leaders. We need to create the opportunities for them to abide to the constituion - by voting them into majority and then pressuring them into serving the people the way they should.
So who exactly isn’t voting?
The idea of taking out a particular RINO or two is one thing.
Handing team nazi the ball and going to pout on the sidelines makes those people just as bad.
Precisely.
Think of our free nation as a beautiful young girl. Voting against socialism even while voting for weak follower statists is cutting off one of her arms. Staying home and thus supporting socialism is raping and then slowly killing her.
The United States, like almost all English-speaking countries, has a two-party political system.
No we don't. The Constitution nowhere mentions or recognizes political parties. And our first president strictly warned us against letting party factionalism take hold.
To whatever extent parties have been superimposed upon our constitutional system, you will find the extent of the corruption.
I believe Mitt is a lib. Do you?
Libs do what libs do. All of it wrong or evil. If you think he would be a severe conservative, you go right on believing whatever you like. I don’t believe a liberal would do anything that did not benefit him to do so. You dont KNOW squat that he would or would not have done. If it gets you through the day, pretend he sings opera.
But it’s speculation. Not reality.
We can win by chipping away at the rock. It’s how the pyramids were built and we can do it too. There is no perfect candidate and never will be. Vote for the best candidate and then work to get your issue resolved.
Freeper purists think that sitting on their hands will help create utopia. It won’t.
The dems took lots of’em. thats why they are running scared now. But they did it. Obamacare for example. Coal. All sorts of jobkillers they lined up for and did without hesitation. so yes. People do it all the time at the top of govt.
You are forgetting the constitution provides the power of the purse to the House of Reps. Obamacare is universally despised. It has never polled a majority.
If the GOP can't defund the worst POC legislation in our history, it is a waste of time to think the pubbies will take on tougher issues.
Example please.
we can't even expect them to do anything for the conservative cause when they do have the majority.
Did you catch Rove last week telling us basically don't expect the GOP Congress to do anything when we win and are in the majority? What does that tell you? It tells me he is doing the dirty work for the party, lowering expectations, so that the individual senators don't get flack when they do nothing for their constituency .
additionally with that pronouncement he may make even more republican voters stay home.
rove is no good. I won't vote GOP at least until Rove is gone. I have no faith in these elections anymore.
No, at the time, the rats thought their actions would enhance their reelection.
Stockholm syndrome. these people have identified with their captors. See also wife beating, white guilt and others.
I dunno. there was plenty of debate back then. Some of it, sure. But Ocare was popular nowhere but inner cities and hard lib enclaves. thats why Nancy and Stenny had to do their dog and pony show.
Just in general: purists know they have to support tea party conservatives, but if one isn’t in the race, they feel that a Statist or egotistical Repub is the same as a dem and won’t vote.
As if that would make a tea party candidate grow on the spot for that race. It usually doesn’t. What usually happens then is that the Dem wins.
There is no way romney would have been as bad as Obama’s second term. And there are two years left of it.
Purists are not following the Hippocratic oath of First, Do No Harm.
It's not like there's been a pendulum swinging left to right in this country for quite some time now——Only LEFT, since Wilson took office.
The Republicans now, look no different than the dems did thirty years ago. The Demoncrats are outright communists, socialists, anti-American thugs, liars and thieves.
I am a purist but I'm also a realist.....I have always voted against the COMMUNIST!! I would rather see some sanity while I'm still alive than the sh!t we have currently in the White Hut, Senate--Harry Reid, etc.
Yes I know, I'm kicking the can down the road.
Name ONE thing, desired by the left, that has not been steadily advanced over the last two decades. Democrats SERVE their base.
This is not excuses for the Republicans' non-performance.
That is precisely what it is. Excuses.
What low-voltage back-east Republicans will never understand is that they will not win without the Conservatives. And Conservatives are in three factions. Each of those factions REQUIRE their primary principles to be upheld. Without ALL THREE factions, Republicans cannot win, or at least, cannot win decisively...
SO WHY it is so important to uphold the principles of Conservatism, is because without doing so, you will not win, because you will not get enough people to go to the polls, unless ALL the principles of Conservatism are being served. All else results in voter apathy or split votes as the various factions break apart to support various candidates
The 1%ers (me included) are right. Even if you don't believe in Conservatism, or lack faith in one or more of it's factions and their principles, Compromise is never going to lead to success. When ALL Conservative principles are being served, THEN, and ONLY THEN, will rise the Conservative juggernaut.
That, in a nutshell, is Reagan Conservatism. You should try it sometime.
While no republic can long survive a corrupt citizenry, there is more to the Framers' design. They divided power, and not just horizontally between the three branches. The first and most important division was between the states and the government they created.
Our silly tack-on, the 17th Amendment is like adding a rumble seat to a Miata sports car. It can be done, but both screw up terrific designs.
Right, because those of us who want to crush the Democrats by any means necessary are just a bunch of RINOs.
I don’t think you guys understand the passion that our side feels.
“Just in general: purists know they have to support tea party conservatives, but if one isn’t in the race, they feel that a Statist or egotistical Repub is the same as a dem and won’t vote.”
Must be an interesting fellow. Can you name one? Not in general. Because being one of the top ‘purists’ (so I have been repeatedly accused) I never met the dude.
So I call BS. Name them. Because we all vote. Just not for liberals.
That should read in your humble opinion Mitt Romney is a liberal POS, and that opinion is not shared by very many. Just enough to give us the gift that keeps on giving.
So thank a bunch.
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