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To solve worker shortage, Dow offers apprenticeships
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| October 23, 2014
| Rhiannon Meyers
Posted on 10/23/2014 4:36:17 AM PDT by thackney
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To: rrrod
This year I hired 5 straight out of college: I reviewed 40+ resumes, interviewed 20, hired 5 - damn good kids. Some of the others... meh... that’s why I didn’t hire them.
The ones I got are good thinkers, fast learners, decent writers, have a sense of humor and can communicate clearly.
The ones I turned away wrote sloppily, didn’t have the required engineering skills, were poor speakers, dressed abysmally, or plainly thought to much of themselves.
Just like everything else there are good ones and bad ones.
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posted on
10/23/2014 7:34:07 AM PDT
by
reed13k
(For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
To: GeronL
There are 95 million unemployed in this country, there is no shortage.
I'd say there's probably a shortage of workers who can maintain and operate cracking units worth hundreds of millions of dollars safely, reliably and with a minimum of downtime. There probably aren't anywhere near 95 million of those kind of people.
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posted on
10/23/2014 8:19:33 AM PDT
by
Milton Miteybad
(I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
To: Milton Miteybad
I'd say there's probably a shortage of workers who can maintain and operate cracking units worth hundreds of millions of dollars safely, reliably and with a minimum of downtime.And can pass a drug test.
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posted on
10/23/2014 8:22:22 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
(The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
To: dfwgator
Well, there is that, yes...
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posted on
10/23/2014 8:24:45 AM PDT
by
Milton Miteybad
(I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
To: Gen.Blather
I have gone back to technical school to learn machining, and many of my fellow students have trouble doing simple math, like working with fractions; basic algebra, forget it. It’s painful to see.
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posted on
10/23/2014 8:38:58 AM PDT
by
Trailerpark Badass
(There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
To: thackney
Yeah, look at Biden’s kid. And he failed for cocaine, which I believe only stays in the system for a day or two, so he’s still an active, regular user.
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posted on
10/23/2014 8:41:54 AM PDT
by
Trailerpark Badass
(There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
To: thackney
Most likely these aren’t real apprenticeships, but a devious plan to pay even less to new hires.
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posted on
10/23/2014 8:44:30 AM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
To: Artie
Let me just say that I have not been hanging out with Ethyl...so I know nutting about this...
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posted on
10/23/2014 8:46:15 AM PDT
by
Delta Dawn
(Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
To: Moonman62
That was my question...are these paid or unpaid internships?
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posted on
10/23/2014 8:47:06 AM PDT
by
Delta Dawn
(Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
To: Vigilanteman
Apprenticeship programs are an age-old solution which companies have been reluctant to try as long as the Chamber of Commies keeps the pipeline of illegals flowing.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if these companies started whining and crying about not having enough H1b’s to fill these “apprenticeships.”
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posted on
10/23/2014 8:48:00 AM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
To: Moonman62
And your proof for this assertion is...
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posted on
10/23/2014 8:50:20 AM PDT
by
Milton Miteybad
(I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
To: Delta Dawn
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posted on
10/23/2014 8:50:38 AM PDT
by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
To: Milton Miteybad
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posted on
10/23/2014 8:52:19 AM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
To: Moonman62
Most likely these arent real apprenticeships, but a devious plan to pay even less to new hires. I doubt that. I do consulting work in plants like these. They desperately need skilled people.
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posted on
10/23/2014 8:59:59 AM PDT
by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
To: Vigilanteman
"Apprenticeship programs are an age-old solution which companies have been reluctant to try as long as the Chamber of Commies keeps the pipeline of illegals flowing."Not so sure they've been reluctant to try it. From what I've seen the model has just been modified to a revolving door of Illegal labor. New arrival get's training and low pay until he knows the job and expects actual wages. The axe drops and the process starts again. Works great because there will always be a constant flow.
To: Moonman62
Why, I do believe that it is. From Dictionary.com:
assertion
noun
1. a positive statement or declaration, often without support or reason...
It was a positive statement, with no offer of conclusive proof. I just asked for your proof. You have replied with an incorrect statement that what you had asserted was not an assertion, whereas in truth and in fact, that is all it is.
Having grown up in petrochemical country, I can attest that process technicians, instrumentation techs, etc., are fairly well-paid. While I don't know how much an apprentice in those occupations would earn, it's a fairly safe bet that the sponsoring company isn't undertaking the expense of the program simply for the purpose of turning the workforce over in two to four years in favor of another group of apprentices who will work for less, thereby wasting the time and money spent on training the first apprentice class. That would defeat the very purpose of the program, in fact.
You appear to believe otherwise, for reasons you have yet to adequately explain. I was merely asking for that explanation.
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posted on
10/23/2014 9:11:51 AM PDT
by
Milton Miteybad
(I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
To: thackney
I doubt that. I do consulting work in plants like these. They desperately need skilled people.
...
Are they not paying enough to get skilled people?
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posted on
10/23/2014 9:12:20 AM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
To: Milton Miteybad
My statement was probabilistic. It was not an assertion.
When you say these people are well paid, have their salaries kept up with inflation over the past 30 years?
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posted on
10/23/2014 9:16:40 AM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
To: Moonman62
With the plant growth in the area, there are not enough skilled people for these jobs.
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posted on
10/23/2014 9:19:07 AM PDT
by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
To: thackney
With the plant growth in the area, there are not enough skilled people for these jobs.
...
I have no doubt they need people, but there are a lot of intelligent quick learners who need jobs, too. Please point me to some of the help wanted ads, and perhaps we can see what the problem is.
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posted on
10/23/2014 9:43:58 AM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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