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Ralph Nader to Apple CEO Tim Cook: Pay Chinese workers double and cut their hours in half
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Posted on 10/25/2014 2:31:17 AM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: Organic Panic

You know we should have a like or dislike button on free republic it would save a lot of posting time. By the way I agree with your statement.


21 posted on 10/25/2014 3:49:06 AM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: John Valentine

I don’t know.

China is now the world’s premier producer.

Not America. China.

We need to start to build up America once again. “WE”.

As in, conservatives. I don’t know exactly how, but building up China will eventually mean, China takes over.

That is not a goal, which I want.

I don’t believe that is a goal which anyone wants, except for of course Chinese. They are all for that. Yet it is where we are headed.

America needs to bring back production, right here.

Conservatives, we need to formulate a plan which does that.

Not sure how, but that is important.


22 posted on 10/25/2014 3:55:03 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

OUR investment in China? You’ve invested in China?

America doesn’t want those businesses in America. Assuming that they can get past the EPA and various other regulatory agencies, the NIMBY crowd will make sure that there is no place where the factories can be built, except, maybe, in your back yard.

At least in China, and other Asian countries, the officials can be bribed.


23 posted on 10/25/2014 3:58:29 AM PDT by Daveinyork ( Marbury vs.Madison was the biggest power grab in American history.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Perfect!


24 posted on 10/25/2014 4:00:31 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: reg45
Tim Cook;s board includes Al Gore also hired Former Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson has been hired by Apple to head up the company’s environmental initiatives.

Tim Cook said Apple mission is Global Warming while products are made in China and Obama never mentions Apple for outsourcing.

26 posted on 10/25/2014 4:06:51 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: Swordmaker

“Designed by Apple in California
Computer Assembled in USA
Other Items as Marked Theron”

Notice that the word “MANUFACTURED” is not on the tag.

When companies state that their products was assembled in the USA that normally means that all of the parts and sub-assemblies were manufactured in foreign countries.

The word “assembled” is simply there to confuse those who are easily fooled to think it was “made” in the U.S.A..


27 posted on 10/25/2014 4:11:28 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Americanexpat
You know we should have a like or dislike button on free republic...

I've been thinking that, too.

28 posted on 10/25/2014 4:11:54 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: Swordmaker

Nader is still unsafe at any speed.
He got some notoriety bashing mid sixties Chevy corvairs, which I always
thought were kinda cool.


29 posted on 10/25/2014 4:15:13 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: Swordmaker

A dollar an hour and 11 hour shifts? Well at least now we know what it takes to compete.


30 posted on 10/25/2014 4:31:22 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: DH
When companies state that their products was assembled in the USA that normally means that all of the parts and sub-assemblies were manufactured in foreign countries.

Sorry, no, you're wrong. There are strict legal guidelines on what can be used in this designation. Assembled means that major components are made in the country listed. If I recall correctly, that figure is 85% for Assembled. The FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION States the following:

" REQUIREMENT FOR “ASSEMBLED IN USA” CLAIMS

“A product that includes foreign components may be called ‘Assembled in USA’ without qualification when its principal assembly takes place in the U.S. and the assembly is substantial. For the ‘assembly’ claim to be valid, the product’s last ‘substantial transformation’ also should have occurred in the U.S.”

Example: A lawn mower, composed of all domestic parts except for the cable sheathing, flywheel, wheel rims and air filter (15 to 20 percent foreign content) is assembled in the U.S. An “Assembled in USA” claim is appropriate.

Example: All the major components of a computer, including the motherboard and hard drive, are imported. The computer’s components then are put together in a simple “screwdriver” operation in the U.S., are not substantially transformed under the Customs Standard, and must be marked with a foreign country of origin. An “Assembled in U.S.” claim without further qualification is deceptive.

The MacPro and IMacs Assembled in the USA, meet those less than 15-20% imported parts requirements, so they are entitled to be labeled "Assembled in the USA." The last time I had this argument with an Apple basher, I had an entire list of the components of the Apple MacPro and their US states of origin. It blew him out of his toy boat.

The FTC's higher standard of "Manufacted in the USA" or "Made in the USA" require an almost impossible to reach standard:

"REQUIREMENT FOR “MADE IN USA” CLAIMS

“A product advertised as Made in USA be must be ‘all or virtually all’ made in the U.S.“

No modern computer can do it. None. Well maybe an Abacus.

Thanks for playing. Better luck next time in your Apple bashing attempts.

31 posted on 10/25/2014 4:47:15 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Ralph may be onto something - I’d love to be paid 40X my wages and have my hours cut to 1 a week - Two or three jobs would leave me rolling in the dough and with lots of time to enjoy it...


32 posted on 10/25/2014 4:50:44 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Wolfie
A dollar an hour and 11 hour shifts? Well at least now we know what it takes to compete.

And it isn't true. That's the prevailing factory wage in China, but workers on Apple assembly lines get $2.80 an hour and cannot work more than ten hours. . . including overtime. They are also limited in overtime. . . which they were quite upset about. The workers want to work overtime.

A shift of workers threatened mass suicide when they learned their overtime was going to be limited to twenty hours a month!

33 posted on 10/25/2014 4:53:54 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Palio di Siena

As a freshman at the U of Minn in ‘69, I picked up a copy of “Unsafe At Any Speed” in a used bookstore for 25 cents. Only because I had picked up a ‘65 Corvair Spyder for a few hundred bucks. The only sporty vehicle ever made under the Corvair nameplate.

A few months later, a 35 year-old Nader — known only for his BS book — was going to be speaking on-campus at Coffman Union, the main “student center” and a major venue, it seated maybe 2,000. So, out of curiosity, I showed up. Hung around afterwards and met the guy as a bunch of admirers were asking him questions. I wasn’t impressed.

He spent most of his time yapping about “PIRGS” — public interest research groups — and sure enough, by the next year MPIRG (M for Minnesota) existed. Soon, they were whacking students for mandatory fees every quarter. Now, they’re everywhere, sucking up student and public money.

Ralph passed his sell-by date 40 years ago, but he never stops with his liberal BS. When he stroked-out years ago, I thought he might hang it up. No such luck, he’s still at it at age 80. Most people get smarter as they get older. Not Ralph.


34 posted on 10/25/2014 5:40:57 AM PDT by AntiScumbag
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To: Cowboy Bob

Nader?

Isn’t he a loud mouth who never has and never will produce anything useful?

Just like a certain president.


35 posted on 10/25/2014 5:50:23 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Swordmaker

..., triple your prices, and, go out of business. Samsung is all we need.


36 posted on 10/25/2014 5:50:56 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
There is one good way to jump-start your plan of re-shoring technology - mandate US electronic components only in all defense department purchases. There is simply no excuse for the security of Americans to be placed under the control of any foreign government. Once the manufacturing base is returned for government purchases, it will be easier for those same manufacturers to use their equipment to build for consumer purposes.
37 posted on 10/25/2014 6:12:26 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: scooby321
Tim Cook;s board includes Al Gore 

That reminds me that Nader's run in 2000 splitting the leftist vote won the election for Bush. Without that, Gore would have won Florida and likely New Hampshire, won the election and been president during 9/11. Thank you, Ralph, for your service to our country preventing that.

38 posted on 10/25/2014 7:11:54 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: Swordmaker

http://www.wnd.com/2002/02/12665/

Ralph Nader is a hypocrite

Published: 02/06/2002 at 1:00 AM

author-image Paul Sperry About | Email | Archive

Paul Sperry, formerly WND’s Washington bureau chief, is a Hoover Institution media fellow and author of “Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives have Penetrated Washington.”

WASHINGTON – Ralph Nader takes little stock in corporate America – convinced, as he is, that big business is the root of all societal ills.

Or at least that’s what he says.

His personal investment portfolio, worth millions of dollars, tells a far different story.

But before I tell you about all the corporate stock he owns, let me tell you why I’m even bothering to expose such a cartoon-caricature of an unreconstructed market-bashing liberal for the hypocrite he is.

Nader has always been more of an entertaining sideshow to me than anyone to be taken seriously. I actually derive some secret pleasure from the supposedly anti-establishment gadfly’s shtick of puncturing the self-righteous rhetoric of the stuffed-shirts in both parties, because it injects a refreshing honesty – perverse, misguided and, as it turns out, phony, as it may be – into the otherwise stale presidential campaigns of poll-tested platitudes. I had hoped he’d run again for kicks.

But recently Nader has become the liberal media elite’s go-to guy for bashing corporate management in the wake of Enron’s pension-robbing collapse. And, frighteningly enough, he’s starting to make sense to reasonable people – particularly scared pre-retirement workers who normally would have turned him off before he could plunge into another of his eye-twitching fulminations against capitalism (and not just Enron’s corrupt brand of crony capitalism).

On ABC’s “This Week,” Nader charged that Enron is not a bad apple, but “part of a corporate crime wave.” On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” he again attempted to demonize all corporations by arguing that “Enron is symbolic of the corruption of corporate politics,” whatever that means.

His host, Tim Russert, a former aide to liberal Democrat Mario Cuomo, just nodded, giving him an open field, whereby Nader demanded that government crack down on corporate “crooks” and “crime in the [executive] suites.”

This was bad enough.

But then I found out that my uncle, whom I’ve always admired, even idolized, was one of the 2,882,955 Americans (2.7 percent of the total turnout) who voted for Nader in 2000.

That blew my mind.

After playing professional football for the Patriots (congratulations, by the way, to the franchise and all its players, past and present, and its long-suffering fans, such as myself, on the Pats’ first national championship), my uncle made a small fortune on Wall Street as a senior executive with Merrill Lynch.

So what’s his fascination with Nader? I’m not quite sure, but the fact that he studied socialism – er, sociology – at Dartmouth could explain part of it.

Still, there’s no doubt Nader holds some weird attraction for many Americans, who clearly aren’t all environmental wackos picketing World Trade Organization summits. And that attraction is growing amid the mushrooming Enron scandal. At this rate, Senate Democrats may invite Nader to testify.

My uncle and other Nader fans, however, might be surprised to learn that Ralph the Mouth doesn’t put his money where his mouth is. At the same time he’s bad-mouthing corporations, he owns stakes in them. Most of his money, in fact, is parked in stocks and commercial paper – not Appleseed Foundation or other bleeding-heart groups that defend the downtrodden.

That’s right. After hearing Nader cast one too many corporate aspersions, I marched down to the Federal Election Commission headquarters here and pulled a copy of the financial disclosure report he filed in 2000, knowing full well that Nader was no pauper.

In it, I found the tweedy do-gooder’s pin-striped underbelly.

On page 15 of Schedule A, Nader was forced to disclose his shares of Cisco Systems, valued at the time at $1,158,750; Fibercore Inc., between $15,000 and $50,000; Iomega Inc., $15,000-$50,000; 3 Com Corp., $50,000-$100,000; and Ziff-Davis Inc., $50,000-$100,000, among other corporate holdings.

Those were just his direct investments.

Nader held an additional $2 million-plus in Fidelity and other mutual funds.

You’d think that someone who so loosely throws around epithets like “corporate criminals” and “corporate crooks” would never trust corporate brass with so much of his own money.

But having said that, where did millionaire Nader get so much money to invest in the first place? Answer: by publicly demonizing the supposedly evil, greedy and exploitative corporate system that he uses to further enrich himself.

Turn to page 1 of his income statement.

There, you’ll find the start of a long list of payola Nader got from various lefty groups, colleges and media to bash corporations in speeches and columns from 1999 through the summer of 2000. Total: $378,726.

Is that all of his income, besides the $100,000-plus he made off his corporate investments in that reporting period? We don’t know for sure. Nader refused to release his income-tax returns.

But he did say this in an addendum to his filing: “Monies I earn are for strengthening civil society.”

Really? Looks like a lot of those “monies” have helped strengthen, in the form of stock investments, the very corporations that he claims are hurting society.

Truth is, Nader benefits from the same corporate establishment he condemns, while his acolytes suffer on the sidelines and agonize on the fringe, sacrificing personal wealth for “social justice” and forgoing the American dream for his fake dream.


39 posted on 10/25/2014 7:58:46 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (There's no there there.)
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To: Captainpaintball

Buy a Moto X Droid phone. Made in Texas.


40 posted on 10/25/2014 8:17:09 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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