Then there is this
Modern Islam
For most, money in the pocket or bank trumps virgins conjured up by faith
Posted on 10/25/2014 1:57:17 PM PDT by NYer
“We’ll probably be long in our graves before western governments face up to this little fact.”
If it ever is faced up to.
A very powerful way of doing this is a declaration of “Muslim or not Muslim”.
Simple really. When a Muslim commits a terrorist act, if other Muslims say they were acting contrary to Islam, then they will be told that the dead terrorist will then not be disposed of as a Muslim, but disposed of like a Christian or atheist.
If captured and sent to prison, they will not be allowed to behave as a Muslim. That is, no beard, no prayer rug, no religious services, no Halal food, no Koran. Because they are *not* Muslims.
Only if they say he was a Muslim, and following the tenets of Islam when he committed terrorist acts, will he be accorded recognition as a Muslim.
I say we stand off and Nuke it from orbit with ten
or twenty war heads, it’s the only way to be sure.
And if all the war heads fail to detonate, try ten more.
If that doesn’t work, well, we can always convert.
Perhaps you skimmed over this part of my essay above.
In ancient Islamic history, the black moon rock was once stolen by a competing tribe, but after a brief time it was “found.” Islam carried on because nobody outside of a very small circle of imams even knew the rock was missing before it was replaced. But if Mecca was suddenly turned into a giant crater, there would be no way to conceal the fact from the world at large, including every Muslim. Today, observant Muslims believe that if every infidel nation fired every rocket and bomb at Mecca, Allah would turn them back or stop them in mid-flight. It is impossible for observant Muslims to believe that the Infidels could destroy the Kaaba, which is literally the physical manifestation on earth of their “greatest God.”
The Crusaders were only able to retake Jerusalem for a short time, and never got close to taking Mecca (assuming that they even understood its importance to Islam and had some notion of taking it). It was not within their power to threaten this source of Islam’s power and mystique, even if they had desired to do so. In all eras before modern mass communications, even if a Crusader “commando team” had made it to Mecca, it would not have changed anything, because the leading Muslim clerics would have replaced the black rock and rebuilt the Kaaba, and nobody would have ever known, in the same way that nobody at the time knew that the black rock had once been stolen and carried off.
Today, the entire world would know in the same hour that Mecca had been destroyed. This would destroy Islam as surely as the Aztec and Inca religions and empires were destroyed when the Spanish conquistadors captured and executed the “living Gods” at the center of the Aztec and Inca belief systems. If there is no Mecca, there is no Islam. There can be no Islam with three instead of five pillars, the two physical pillars having been destroyed by the Gods of the Infidels. “Allahu Akbar” means “our God is greatest.” This cannot be so if the Infidel God destroys the physical god-head of Islam, which is the black moon rock at the Kaaba in Mecca.
We won’t do it even if a dozen U.S. cities are hit with WMDs.
But Russia, India or Israel will do in the same day they take a WMD hit from any Islamic enemy.
I don’t buy it, I think it’s a false report falsely ascribed to ISIS as a psyop. The founder and Caliph of the Islamic State, Abu-Bakr Al-Baghdadi, has a PhD in Islamic Studies from the Islamic University of Baghdad. It’s not conceivable to me that he would have a desire to destroy Mecca, any more than a new Pope would have a desire to destroy St. Peter’s Basilica.
It’s true Baghdadi is a demon for blowing up Shiite shrines etc, but they see Shiite shrines as as iconographic idols.
That would NOT extend to Mecca. Remember, three of the five pillars of Islam involve worship of the physical black moon rock in Mecca. To me it’s more than a reach to think a PhD in Islamic Studies, the new Caliph, would want to destroy the foundation of the two physical pillars.
Western govts are not the only game in town. Russia, India and Israel would not hesitate to nuke Mecca in retaliation for an Islamic WMD attack on their cities.
Thanks for the kind out. I’d indeed ‘skimmed’ too quickly before my posting. Back then the stone’s theft could be kept as secret as Obama’s college records. Nowadays finding a crater as your Haj destination would be trending on the internet. I think long term they would react like the Aztecs did after Cortez’s praiseworthy desecration. But short term there probably would be a lot of enraged crazy responses, and their crazies are much more dispersed than the Aztecs were. The followup would still be messy.
Well said
T
Messy, but with an end in sight. After 1,400 years of terror, that would be a worthwhile outcome.
Then there is this
Modern Islam
For most, money in the pocket or bank trumps virgins conjured up by faith
A ‘religion’ based on war, killing and hatred would have a difficult time bowing to a radioactive hole in the ground. Interesting theory Travis...
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