[ansel12]

No, a few little variations in concoctions have not had any great meaning in the drug world, but if it were legal to play with all the drugs and drug cocktails and creation of new ones by big business and marketing them, then the last 50 years of getting stoned would have destroyed us.

As it is, because of the laws, very few Americans could even name one of those variations, whatever they might be.

*”You’re hallucinating - libertarians believe the law has a proper role in punishing actual direct harms such as you describe.”*

Libertarian position: “ We favor the repeal of all laws creating “crimes” without victims, such as the use of drugs for medicinal or recreational purposes, since only actions that infringe on the rights of others can properly be termed crimes.”

Do libertarians want drugs to be legal, or not?

[ConservingFreedom]

The making and using of new drugs are incentivized by the War on Drugs: until the law catches up with the latest drug, its legality gives it an advantage over better-understood but illegal drugs. [...] people who want to get high but not get arrested have an incentive under drug criminalization to use new poorly-understood drugs that they would not have under drug legalization. There would probably still be a small number of nuts with no sense of self-preservation - but drug criminalization can't stop them today because it's not possible to write a law against drugs that don't yet exist.

No, a few little variations in concoctions have not had any great meaning in the drug world, but if it were legal to play with all the drugs and drug cocktails and creation of new ones by big business and marketing them, then the last 50 years of getting stoned would have destroyed us.

As it is, because of the laws, very few Americans could even name one of those variations, whatever they might be.

So you think the only reason everybody and their nephew doesn't use "bath salts" or other mystery crap is lack of an open marketing campaign? You need to associate with a better class of people - I don't know anyone who could be paid to mess with some new untested junk. Or are you making the elitist assumption beloved of liberals: that everybody except you and (some of) your friends is an idiot who needs government to run his life?

they wouldn't have to worry about safety concerns or side effects or fatalities, since they would all fit the libertarian area of recreational drugs.

libertarians believe the law has a proper role in punishing actual direct harms such as you describe.

Libertarian position: “ We favor the repeal of all laws creating “crimes” without victims, such as the use of drugs for medicinal or recreational purposes, since only actions that infringe on the rights of others can properly be termed crimes.”

Do libertarians want drugs to be legal, or not?

The contradiction is only in your mind - if sellers failed to inform buyers of known potential safety concerns or side effects or fatalities, buyers would be victims of fraud.