Posted on 10/27/2014 5:23:45 AM PDT by cotton1706
But reading the article, the senate republicans changed Brownback’s plan. So they should take the heat for less revenue.
bump, you said it better than I ever could.
I think that your assessment is spot on, certainly more Roberts signs even in the heart of Orman country and the moderates are now gone. Good riddance, as I said.
What I find interesting about the expelled liberals is that they can’t manage to call themselves the Democrats that they have been for a very long time. If Orman had run as a Democrat, this race would have been over long ago.
Mog, apparently you've left your keyboard unattended and someone has drunkenly replied to 15 or 20 threads with the message above .... get back to your computer and take charge of the situation.
Or get credit for things not being even worse? They didn't give Brownback all the cuts he wanted and the state still ran a significant deficit.
But he didn't and as a result he's getting all the Democrats, the moderate Republicans that got booted out, and a fair share of the independents. It's all going to come down to turnout, and I honestly think that the big unknown in this is if the oddity of having an "independent" on the ballot make people come out who might not have come out otherwise? And who will those people vote for?
There are quite a few people who have naively bought into the “I will caucus with the party that wins control” meme. They really think that Orman will be a good Republican and work to bring the aviation industry back to Kansas. And we wonder why politicians lie to us.
That's probably a non-issue now since Preibus said on TV that the Republicans wouldn't let Orman caucus with them. Of course, what else could he say? But it gave Orman an excuse to drop the "I'll caucus with either party" line and play up his "Washington is broken" schtick. I don't think there's anyone left in the state who would be surprised if Orman caucused with the Dems.
And, of course, if Orman does win then Preibus ill change his tune and Mitch McConnell will be his new best buddy up until Orman says who he'll hang out with.
They really think that Orman will be a good Republican and work to bring the aviation industry back to Kansas. And we wonder why politicians lie to us.
Why should lying to us deter people from voting for Orman over Roberts? Do you think there's anyone who actually believes what Roberts is saying either?
The people who will vote for Orman have no idea who Preibus is and will never see or hear what he had to say. They believe the lie because they want to do so.
My comment was about lying in general. All politicians do it, Orman is just being more egregious about it.
I don't know. I've seen Roberts out there talking about how he cares about the people of Kansas so I can't honestly say which one is being more egretious in they lying.
Roberts cares a great deal about the people of Kansas, at least until after next Tuesday. Orman cares about himself and two other people: Obama and Reid.
I’m still voting for Roberts, and for Brownback as well.
Well we'll see how many of your fellow Kansans do the same. I don't have a dog in that fight but I think Brownback is in the mess he's in because he tried to overreach. If there's any good that might come out of this is that it's caused the Missouri legislature to pause and realize that maybe they need to think things through before jumping. And Roberts is the posterboy for everything everyone hates in our professional political class. His problems are of his own making.
He sent me in his stead.
What do you want?
Where’s humblegunner whining about someone pimping a web site?a.) The article isn't from a blog
b.) WSJ only allows excerpts to be posted.
Try again.
Government revenue decreasing is a GOOD thing. Starve the beast.
The article makes it clear how all of that happened. Brownback did not overreach, the Democrats/Liberal Republican cabal tried to ambush and he fought back. Moreover, the so called mess is not real, things are actually going well even with the legislature’s attempts at sabotage. Roberts certainly poo poo’d in his own messkit.
The shortfalls in revenue are real. Projected deficits are there. Two downgrades of the state's credit rating seem to indicate that credit agencies don't have the same faith in his plan that Brownback has.
Roberts certainly poo poo’d in his own messkit.
He did indeed. Yet he may survive this and Brownback may not. Go figure.
Mr. Brownback is in trouble mainly because the media are amplifying the Democratic distortions, like a claim by teachers unions that the governor signed the “largest single cut to education in Kansas history.” School funding in Kansas is actually at an all-time high. Total per-pupil spending has increased to $12,960 from $12,283 over four years.
The governor has also struggled to communicate Kansas’ modest, but real, progress. Since the tax cuts took effect in January 2013, private job growth in Kansas has surpassed growth in Nebraska and Iowa after trailing for the prior decade. Services (i.e., small businesses) account for 95% of the state’s growth in private jobs, compared with about 70% in Iowa and Nebraska. Last year, Kansas’ private GDP growth exceeded the nation’s and growth in high-tax states like California, New York, Connecticut, Maryland and New Jersey.
I read the article. I really do encourage you to rely on more than a single source for your information, and that from someone who has probably never travelled to the area.
Revenue wasted on teacher's unions accomplishes no great purpose except to line the pockets of the liberal union educators.
Possibly true but completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
School funding in Kansas is actually at an all-time high. Total per-pupil spending has increased to $12,960 from $12,283 over four years.
A misleading figure since that includes all federal funding; state KPERS contributions (which is a “pass through” for district budgets); capital outlay expenditures and repayment of constructions budgets; and all other spending from local sources, such as fees for meals, textbooks, transportation, etc. The amouont actually contributed by the state in per student funding is less than it was in 2008. Local funding, i.e. funding from local property taxes, is up 10% during that same period. It also ignores the fact that funding five years ago was higher than it is now. And when you take into account inflation, funding 5 years ago was 10% higher than it is now. And that is what has the natives restless.
The governor has also struggled to communicate Kansas’ modest, but real, progress. Since the tax cuts took effect in January 2013, private job growth in Kansas has surpassed growth in Nebraska and Iowa after trailing for the prior decade.
That's not what his own budget director is saying.
Well, so far you are spouting what the Kansas City Star, the Wichita Eagle, the Topeka Capital Journal, the Democrat Party, and the Kansas Teachers Union are saying. I certainly rely on multiple sources, but I also know which ones are carting around a big agenda.
Education funding went through the roof during the Sebelius administration and very little of it showed up in the classroom. The unions were happy and the construction contractors were very happy because new schools were popping up like dandelions. Leavenworth built a new middle school when they had a modern and perfectly acceptable one to service 357 students. They shut the older one down this year and don’t have any idea what to do with it.
Please give the Teacher’s Union and the Democrat Party a call. I’m sure that they can use your help even if you don’t like in the state.
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