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6 Reasons We Need To Help Republicans Take The Senate Even Though They Stink
Townhall.com ^ | October 28, 2014 | John Hawkins

Posted on 10/28/2014 5:34:31 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
#2 is the reason I always vote for the GOP instead of a dim. Even if that GOP later disappoints me because of his stand on a particular issue, he/she will caucus with our side and that controls what gets voted on in the first place.
101 posted on 10/28/2014 11:49:26 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: ArtDodger

“We aren’t quite as bad as the other bunch!”

Some R Senators are far from great, but they really don’t even approach the Dems. Sitting it out to allow Dems to stay in control only empowers Reid/Durban/Leahy/Saunders, et al. I’m not willing to do that.

The problem conservatives have is impatience. If conservatives have to accommodate McCain/Graham, etc., but one by one, or two by two add to the GOP’s conservative wing, eventually outnumbering the ‘moderates,’ they will achieve control. It’s not won overnight in one election. A conservative team has to be built.


102 posted on 10/28/2014 12:05:44 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: C. Edmund Wright

” The problem is not Brown, it’s Graham and Cornyn and Chambliss and Burr from red states.”

And McCain, and Flake, and....


103 posted on 10/28/2014 12:19:30 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

yes, those too.....fo shizzle.


104 posted on 10/28/2014 12:21:12 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: servantboy777

” I am chastising this perverted globalist style of capitalism that throws mama from the train or sells out the national security of a nation for a $$buck$$. Hint hint...China

Democrats and Republicans sucked up campaign cash from multi-nationals in return for policy and egregiously lopsided trade deals that favored foreign interest and the lining of these crony capitalist pockets at the expense of American citizens.

Here is an example. No names, but the corporation I worked for does business in China through a front company. In other words, we cannot sell goods into China as an American entity, we must re-label our products under the name of a Chinese brand, otherwise we cannot do business.

So...what’s wrong with that picture folks? They can sell billions upon billions in our country, yet we are squeezed in theirs. hmmmmm

Seems to me this all has happened under the leadership of BOTH parties. “

Somebody who actually gets it. A rarity, but always a pleasant surprise.


105 posted on 10/28/2014 12:27:32 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: sickoflibs

“”4) It will improve the quality of GOP legislation: Putting Republicans in charge of the Senate will take a big excuse away from the Republicans on issues like immigration. Ironically, the reason the House leadership Republicans were so hell-bent on passing it this year was BECAUSE they feared the GOP would take over the Senate. Truthfully, they’d rather have a bad bill that codifies open borders and amnesty that they could blame on Harry Reid. Then, the line would have been something like, “We know it’s not the greatest bill, but what do you expect when we have to work with Harry Reid?”””

HUH??


106 posted on 10/28/2014 12:45:43 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: EDINVA

The problem conservatives have is impatience


I couldn’t disagree with you more. Conservatives have been patient for the past 20 years. Had we started a 3rd party back then, we would probably not be in the shape we are in today. What has our patience gotten us? Stolen primaries. R senators who work against us and with the enemy. My patience is gone.


107 posted on 10/28/2014 12:53:12 PM PDT by magglepuss (Don't tread on me)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Maybe that is their rationale.
That can play both ways, vote against it or vote for it and blame Reid.

I recall GWB had both houses (GOP) in 2006 and he still couldn’t get a bill and he concluded that he needed a Dem congress to get amnesty.

I think they wanted amnesty THIS year because they DIDN”T want it a campaign issue in 2016. They didn’t want it in the 2016 GOP primary debates. They didnt want Hillary running on amnesty,


108 posted on 10/28/2014 1:06:16 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs

” I think they wanted amnesty THIS year because they DIDN”T want it a campaign issue in 2016.”

Proving once again that establishment/GOPe Republicans in D.C. only care about themselves.


109 posted on 10/28/2014 1:10:12 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

amen


110 posted on 10/28/2014 2:13:48 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: magglepuss

20 YEARS? You’re kidding? And proving my point!


111 posted on 10/28/2014 2:14:43 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Kaslin

I read this article on Townhall earlier and was ready to post it here with the following request: As a Kentucky voter, provide me with a convincing argument of why I should vote for Mitch McConnell. This article certainly didn’t turn me into a Mitch voter. Every one of the 6 reasons is political hack “in the bubble” think. Every little is said about what the GOPe will do with control of both Houses.

This is my rant about Mitch, first he allowed ACA (Obamacare) to get through the Senate. Senate rules allow the minority to stop bad legislation. ACA is certainly bad legislation. Mitch for pure political reasons allowed closure on ACA to fire up the GOP grassroots base and Mitch took the political gamble that the Stupak 7 in the House would prevent passage. Well the Stupak and his stooges caved to the Pelosi House leadership and ACA has been laid upon the backs of GOP grassroots supporters. FULL SARCASM ON!!! Thanks Mitch.

For added salt in the ACA wound, guess what Bart Stupak is currently doing. Bart didn’t run for re-election in 2010, but the Dims great protector of the unborn now works for Planned Parenthood.

Mitch forced Senator Jim Bunning into retirement because Senator Bunning was a head-strong conservative. Fortunately, conservatives beat back Mitch lapdog Trey Grayson and elected Rand Paul to the Senate.

So the Tea Party runs Matt Bevins against Mitch. Matt was probably not a great candidate but willing to lay his neck out there against Kentucky’s most powerful, spiteful pol. Matt’s primary loss was evident early in the evening. Matt comes out and throws his support to Mitch. Mitch comes out with his acceptance speech tooting how he fought back the “RACIST” Tea Party. I’m not even a card carrying Tea Party member and I’m thinking “really Mitch”! Mitch is a cancer on conservatives.

A side point to my request, is that it is unlikely the GOP will win more than 52 Senate seats. I see 51 seats at best. So then we are back to McCain and Graham gumming up Senate legislation like before.

So provide me with a compelling, convincing argument of why I should vote for Mitch McConnell. Don’t waste Freeper space about “sending a message” by voting for the Libertarian. If I’m NOT voting for Mitch, then I will vote AGAINST him by voting for Grimes.

Don’t flame me either, I spent 19 years in the south suburbs of Chicago fighting the DIMs. I’ve fought off several blowtorches that have been turned in my direction.


112 posted on 10/28/2014 2:50:40 PM PDT by fastrock (It is never right to do wrong, even if sanctioned by law. - Abe Lincoln)
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To: EDINVA

“The problem conservatives have is impatience.”
I think the problem is Rinos aren’t conservatives..


113 posted on 10/28/2014 4:17:14 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: ArtDodger

Until there’s a perfect conservative world, conservatives will have to abide moderates/RINOs and work to replace them when and where they can, either thru primaries or attrition as seats open. That takes time. Or, in the alternative, they can accept that sitting out elections rather than voting for a RINO serves the interest of REAL libs. And never get the power they need of a majority.

Look at New Hampshire. Conservatives don’t like Scott Brown. But are they better off with him in office, where they can have his support maybe 60% of the time, or Jeanne Shaheen whose support they will get 0% of the time?


114 posted on 10/28/2014 6:55:50 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

Yes, you are correct.. It is infuriating because the RINOs don’t even WANT to be a majority. And if they are elected, they WON’T do anything..


115 posted on 10/28/2014 7:37:42 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Kaslin

was it up to the democrats who had already voted in the democrat primary?

Apparently Thad thought so...

Youve just earned the status of GOPe Troll... gratz...


116 posted on 10/28/2014 9:22:39 PM PDT by myself6
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