If congress accepted impeachment proceedings, would that be tantamount to declaring he is legally president?
Constitutional Eligibility
If congress accepted impeachment proceedings, would that be tantamount to declaring he is legally president?
Constitutional Eligibility
But what if someone DID bring up impeachment hearings.....
if impeachment did not apply, would not that point come out in those proceedings... ?
I.E. questions would come up as to why it didn’t apply?
If congress accepted impeachment proceedings, would that be tantamount to declaring he is legally president?
No.
To the contrary, from a junior Dem staffer, I understand the Dem's are gaming out how an impeachment would work. Seems a little incongruous but they may try to twist this around to "before you can impeach, one element of the action is proof he really holds the office, so the burden of proof is on you to show he was eligible to be there in the first place".
In listening to what I hear in DC, there seems to be a developing common direction that the country would be better off if Barry were not President--as we drift in that direction, the topic of impeachment becomes an obvious consideration because it seems pretty obvious that much of his conduct flies in the face of Constitutional limitations on the powers of his office.
So that said, the fact that the R's lack fortitude may not have changed much but the political price involved in an eviction proceeding of some character suddenly doesn't seem to be quite so high.
Principals on both sides are thinking about the possibilities.
One of the reasons to juice this thread up is to take the temperature of the Obama Bots that hang out here.
One of the many deficiencies of the Republicans in Washington DC generally is that they don't have, use, or want to pay for competent legal help.
John Boehner's recent experience trying to get decent legal help on his lawsuit is a classic case in point--the lawyer community is Democrat and Liberal to start with; the Republicans that are out there are not very good or very aggressive.
So we want to start making a record of the correct direction of the legal process. The way to use legal process to evict Barry is to reopen the process of certification. And if they don't do that at the inception, the Dem's plan to bog them down with procedure that will carry him the rest of the way out to the next campaign.
One assumes that if Joe is not the nominee or elected, there will be effective legal work done by the Dems (who do have, use, and pay competent counsel) to get effective pardon's in place to insulate as many of the principals from legal responsibility as possible. There will still be an overhang of gaps from Barry's administration that will taint government process for many years but absolving individuals from legal responsibility will impair corrective action for some time.
Although I also detect a common understanding that Barry was born outside the United States; and that there is significant uncertainty about his parentage; and there is even some significant undercurrent among senior insiders that he is in fact not Barack H. Obama Jr. (or II); I don't hear anyone who appears to know where he was born or who his true parents were although I believe Nancy Pelosi knows.