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The Iconic Isochron: Radioactive Dating, Part 2
Institute for Creation Research ^ | Nov. 2014 | Vernon Cupps, PhD

Posted on 11/03/2014 10:10:26 AM PST by fishtank

The Iconic Isochron: Radioactive Dating, Part 2

by Vernon R. Cupps, Ph.D. *

The Bible is quite clear about the origin and timeframe for the creation of Earth and the cosmos. If Scripture is inaccurate in this, then how can it be trusted in anything else? Some evolutionists throw out theistic evolution (God using evolution as His creative process) as a philosophical panacea, with the goal of leading people to conclude that Genesis is a myth. Like Nimrod of ancient times, they know they must provide an alternative (i.e., naturalism, specifically scientism—the belief that science alone can render truth about our world and reality) to biblical truth if they are to hold sway over the public in what is essentially a couched rebellion against God.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; dating; radioactive
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"So how do the actual data compare with the model results? First, the various isotope combinations used in the isochron method of dating are clearly discordant—they do not produce the same age for a given rock formation.5 Second, the isochron method gives erroneous ages for rock formations of known age.6 Specifically, rocks gathered from recently erupted Mt. Ngauruhoe in New Zealand gave a K-Ar date of 270,000 to 3.5 million years, a Rb-Sr date of over 133 million years, a Sm-Nd date of nearly 200 million years, and Pb-Pb dates of 3.9 billion years—all this from rocks known to be less than 60 years old!

Another example involves lavas from the Virunga Toro-Ankole regions of the east African Rift Valleys.7 Lavas from these rift valleys known to be Pliocene (<∼ 5 million years) or younger give a Rb-Sr isochron model age of 773 million years. Igneous rocks on the rim of the Grand Canyon give dates older than the igneous rocks at the bottom, contrary to their stratigraphic placement.8 Clearly, the model does not reliably reproduce the observational data and therefore must be modified or used with appropriate caveats.

In the end, the isochron model for radioactive dating is only a hypothesis and a rather poor one at that. Models, no matter how elegant their mathematics, are only as good as the assumptions that go into them and how well they reproduce reality through observation and experimental data.

Conclusion: The scientific method simply does not allow isochron-model dating to be presented as scientific fact. Back to the drawing board.

References

Komarneni, S. and W. B. White. 1983. Hydrothermal Reactions of Strontium and Transuranic Simulator Elements with Clay Minerals, Zeolites, and Shales. Clays and Clay Minerals. 31 (2): 113-121.

Faure, G. 1986. Principles of Isotope Geology, 2nd ed. New York: John Wiley & Sons, 147.

Snelling, A. 2005. Radiohalos in Granites: Evidence for Accelerated Nuclear Decay. In Radioisotopes and the Age of the Earth: Results of a Young-Earth Creationist Research Initiative. Vardiman, L., A.

Snelling, and E. Chaffin, eds. El Cajon, CA: Institute for Creation Research, 101-151. Faure, Principles of Isotope Geology, 7.

Snelling, Isochron Discordances and the Role of Inheritance and Mixing of Radioisotopes in the Mantle and Crust, Radioisotopes and the Age of the Earth, 393-509.

Morris, J. 2007. The Young Earth. Green Forest, AR: Master Books, 52.

Faure, Principles of Isotope Geology, 146-147.

Morris, J. 2007. The Young Earth, 58-59.

* Dr. Cupps is Research Associate at the Institute for Creation Research and received his Ph.D. in nuclear physics from Indiana University-Bloomington.

Cite this article: Vernon R. Cupps, Ph.D. 2014. The Iconic Isochron: Radioactive Dating, Part 2. Acts & Facts. 43 (11)."

1 posted on 11/03/2014 10:10:26 AM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank

ICR article image.

2 posted on 11/03/2014 10:11:17 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank
"Lavas from these rift valleys known to be Pliocene (<∼ 5 million years)" Wow, the ICR admits there's something as old as that!
3 posted on 11/03/2014 10:19:05 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: fishtank

Man, from the title I thought this was about post-apocalyptic romance.


4 posted on 11/03/2014 10:24:58 AM PST by LambSlave
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To: fishtank

Correct conclusion: they had contamination, or did it wrong, or tried to date too close to the half-life. Nothing wrong with radioactive dating, and it gets tiresome for the Young Earth cult to continue to claim there is.


5 posted on 11/03/2014 10:27:25 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: fishtank

Thanks for posting.

The sheeple are so misled and trusting in corrupted science.

The world is in for a real knowledge shock eventually.


6 posted on 11/03/2014 10:37:14 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: fishtank
Radiometric Dating, A Christian Perspective addresses such anomalies as dating clastic intrusions in magma, sampling protocol and other vacuous ICR misrepresentations. The intrusive igneous rock in the Grand Canyon is just that, newer igneous rock intruding beneath older rocks.
7 posted on 11/03/2014 10:43:35 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: LambSlave

I had a radioactive date once.


8 posted on 11/03/2014 11:18:07 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: fishtank

Thanks. The evolution cult will no doubt deny Biblical truth.


9 posted on 11/03/2014 12:24:19 PM PST by afsnco
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To: JimSEA

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3212058/posts?page=65#65


10 posted on 11/03/2014 1:03:09 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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