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Jonathan Gruber: Getting the Facts Straight on Health Care Reform
New England Journal of Medicine ^ | December 24, 2009 | Jonathan Gruber

Posted on 11/15/2014 5:10:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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1 posted on 11/15/2014 5:10:07 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

All lies. We know that as a fact.


2 posted on 11/15/2014 5:12:09 AM PST by Shady (We are at war again......this time for our lives...)
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3 posted on 11/15/2014 5:12:35 AM PST by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber billed fed and state govts at least $5.9M for advice ".......The 'Gruber Microsimulation Model'.............."
4 posted on 11/15/2014 5:12:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

When you look up “pack of lies” online, this article by Herr Gruber should pop up. Virtually NOTHING he says here about ObamaCare turns out to be true.


5 posted on 11/15/2014 5:13:00 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This guy’s absolutely full of s***.


6 posted on 11/15/2014 5:16:35 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

...and the horse he road in on.


7 posted on 11/15/2014 5:17:03 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Donate

8 posted on 11/15/2014 5:20:42 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

kiss off Jonathan you nimrod


9 posted on 11/15/2014 5:24:53 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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10 posted on 11/15/2014 5:26:29 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
So it turns out that ObamaKare is just another massive democrat scam.

Why didn't anyone notice it at the time?

Oh... Wait!


11 posted on 11/15/2014 5:43:02 AM PST by Iron Munro (DHS has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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While I realize that Freepers don't generally like to read long articles, this line is well worth reading:

"The primary role of the government in this reform is as a financier of the tax credits that individuals will use to purchase health insurance from private companies through state-organized exchanges.

12 posted on 11/15/2014 5:49:29 AM PST by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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Nov. 15, 2014: “....The weeklong #GruberGate, as it has been dubbed on Twitter, comes just as the Massachusetts Health Connector prepares to relaunch its website today for open enrollment after a devastating year that saw residents struggling to sign up for health plans.

Gruber, a Connector board member, told Bay Staters on Thursday to “give us another chance,” but Archambault said the professor is the last thing the embattled panel needs as it seeks credibility.

“It does raise big questions about his ongoing involvement in Massachusetts, sitting on the board,” Archambault said.

Gruber did not return an email seeking comment yesterday and there was no answer at his Massachusetts Institute of Technology office. He has declined multiple requests for interviews this week with the Herald. “

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3227275/posts


13 posted on 11/15/2014 5:50:23 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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BUMP!


14 posted on 11/15/2014 5:51:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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15 posted on 11/15/2014 5:53:53 AM PST by maggief
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To: Diogenesis

He goes by Jim Gruber? Can’t blame him, although, if he’s trying to hide, he should have changed the last name instead.


16 posted on 11/15/2014 5:58:01 AM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: Travis McGee
An overinflated sense of self-worth coupled with a complete disdain for the American people and this is what you get; a condescending comic book full of lies. What a loathsome man.
17 posted on 11/15/2014 5:58:29 AM PST by Shannon
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Tea-Party and the GOP need to really fan the flames on this. This is documented proof of what we all have known - the Dem’s lie to get their socialist agenda passed. This is just another in a long list.

The Dem’s succeed by building what is a self-reinforcing cycle:

1. Determine what socialist issue they want to promote, and laws they want to pass.
2. Flog a populist message about helping the little-guy and the helpless by taxing the wealthy. This is a numbers game - there are more voters that are poor than there are that are rich. All the better if your program creates a dependency of these voters on government hand-outs.
3. Find external “experts” with lots of degrees from major Universities, where you can cite their research and reports that support the position you want to promote.
4. Pay said “experts” (that already agree with your position, or that are just academic prostitutes) to do more supportive research, and speak publicly on behalf of the policies you want to promote. The zealot-experts would do it for free, but are happy to take the money as a perceived reward. The useful-idiot-experts (like Krugman) know they can’t make money in the real world, so become dependent on what is just another government handout or bribe.
5. Enlist the compliant media to (a) promote the message and (b) attack any detractors and (c) hide the truth.

If it blows up, like this one is doing, you blame the experts. Afterall, they were duped just like everyone else.

What’s surprising to me is that conservative commentators haven’t yet linked this methodology, on stark display here, to climate-change scientists and debate. It’s the exact same thing - find and exploit the works of “name” scientists from “name” universities to promote a socialist wealth redistribution scheme for pay.


18 posted on 11/15/2014 6:56:19 AM PST by Be Free (I believe in gun control. The more people that control their own guns, the safer we'll all be.)
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The weeklong #GruberGate, as it has been dubbed on Twitter, comes just as the Massachusetts Health Connector prepares to relaunch its website today for open enrollment after a devastating year that saw residents struggling to sign up for health plans.

Can it be that an unintended (or perhaps intended) consequence of GruberGate is to quash all of the talk about ressurecting Mitt Romnmey for another run at the republican presidential nomination in 2016?


19 posted on 11/15/2014 8:28:16 AM PST by Iron Munro (DHS has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: Iron Munro

That certainly is a big side benefit.


20 posted on 11/15/2014 8:29:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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