[Cincinatus' Wife]

I see a growing number of OpEds and Letters to the Editor over the LIES of the Obama Administration.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

The lies that are central to Obama’s agenda "...........The brutal effects of the lies are still coming in. More and more Americans will see their premiums rise. More and more Americans will be tossed out of their current insurance. More and more Americans will become more and more angry about this.

And all of this to solve a problem that was as overhyped as “The Amazing Spider-Man 2.” In July 2009, six months into the Obama era, a Time magazine poll found that while there was widespread consternation with something called “the system” (i.e., what people were told about others, from news reports), 86% of Americans approved of their own personal health care.

Eighty-six percent! Abraham Lincoln wishes his approval ratings were that high. We’re talking about something that Americans liked at least as much as motherhood, the Grand Canyon and summer.

But it had to be completely redesigned, because there just wasn’t enough for the Jonathan Grubers and Jonathan Chaits of the world to do.

The reason liberals consistently mislead, or try to mislead, the public on their policies is that they don’t pass the common-sense test......"

[Bullish]

It’s time to start the pogroms. We may as well just get on with it. The target are liberals of every stripe. After all, they are trying to kill us and are way of life.

[clearcarbon]

[ImNotLying]

The Dems have strategically placed their bought and paid for liberal cronies in most of the major media outlets. They have also hired many family members of these media hacks to work in Dem administration. Fox News, FR, Drudge, and a few other news outlets are the last bastions of hope to keep truth alive. When these fall, there is nothing left to get out the truth except the internet and Obama and his minions are hard at work to control that also.

[NTHockey]

Any “law” that is designed to deceive is no law at all. RESIST. Do not participate. Do not pay the fine. Just as Prohibition disappeared by massive non-compliance, so too can this pass away.

[Gen.Blather]

In the best cons, pulled off by the best con artists, the mark never knows he was conned. This guy is busy bragging that he conned us.

I would like to see everybody associated with the ACA, those who voted for it and those who gave away contracts for software that never worked, to go to prison and make financial restitution from their ill-gotten gains.

[Bender2]

Oh, hi! Come... on in--

You seem upset that I called American voters 'stupid'... right?

Okay, if the American voters are not 'stupid,' then how in hell... did they elect Obama President twice?

See, the proof is always... is in the pudding--

[CPONav]

One of the chief architects of the Affordable Care Act, known popularly as Obamacare, has on at least three occasions referred to you and me as either stupid or ignorant.

No, not everyone. Only those who believed it and supported it. A lot of us were not fooled, not from the start.

[Texas Songwriter]

That Mr. Gruber referenced the electorate as "stupid", it seems to me, is not at issue. It is substantially true that much of the electorate is ignorant of the issues and arguments which consume much of discussion of the chattering class in Washington D.C. What is more concerning is the fact that Obama made a conscious choice to be non-transparent and lie to the public, even counting on the degree of success on those consciously fabricated lies, lest they have to tell the truth and never push through a bill (Obamacare) which would never have seen the light of day. I suppose Obama conscripted John Roberts in depending on the ignorance of the public to solidify the courts support for "what the people voted for" (according to Roberts). So, what can we learn from this revelation by Mr. Gruber. You cannot believe anything Obama says. You cannot trust the Roberts court to interpret the letter of the law as the Constitution demands, but we now know Roberts is a political hack who is blown about by every wind of lie which comes from the bowels of the Obama administration.

It might be something to entertain that the "stupid" public may be so busy trying to make a living, pay bills, above all, pay taxes, raise children, take care of elderly......basically make the country work......that they do not have time or inclination to keep up with the prevarications which emanates from Obama and his lying minions. As to whether Roberts is redeemable,.....we will see. He has unzipped his fly and so far we can rightly conclude that he is not 'judicious' but is a political creature....perhaps made by Obama via blackmail (some have asserted). We will see.

[norwaypinesavage]

"who protects us when the revered fourth estate is hypnotized by politicians?"

It's hard for me to determine which is worse: a hypnotized fourth estate, or a fourth estate is as stupid as Gruber believes. I think it is the latter.

In discussions with fellow conservatives the subject of the cause of such a liberal press comes up. Many cannot understand how the mainstream press has become so liberal. It has now dawned on me. Maybe they are simply stupid.

[johnnygeneric]

The American People should form a tribunal and put these liars in front of it and mete out justice. This law has destroyed lives.

[Jim Noble]

Do you have any idea how many Grubers there are?

[Vaduz]

Affordable Care Act = Fraud

Any bets the SCOTUS will act?.

[Liz]

We now have irrefutable evidence that some members and close associates of our federal government are quite willing to deceive (defraud?) the electorate in order to achieve their political goals. They seem to justify their actions as being necessary for the good of the ignorant masses. Perhaps more telling is how society will deal with exposed deceit.

.....Obama is now denying Gruber played a significant role in designing Obamacare: “The fact that an adviser who was never on our staff expressed an opinion that I completely disagree with in terms of the voters is not a reflection on the actual process that was run.”

Obama also evidently believes the WH press pack is also stupid......he could be right....b/c not one reporter asked how such an unimportant adviser as Gruber got into the White House meeting during which the deceptive “Cadillac Tax” was concocted.....w/ Obama present...

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LET'S CONNECT THE DOTS---The salient point is this: Gruber acting as an independent researcher is one thing---but Gruber consorting w/ many people in govt figuring out ways to lie in order to dupe the tax-paying public is a CONSPIRACY.

POINTS TO PONDER:

<><> (1) WH sign-in sheets show Gruber went there at least nineteen times.

<><>(2) Gruber, himself, talked about Obama being in the room when the Cadillac tax was invented.

<><> (3) Based on his Obamacare experiences, Gruber took tax dollars from several states to set up Obamacare exchanges....and earned millions of dollars doing so.

<><>(4) Nancy Pelosi is caught on-tape citing Gruber as a reliable source.

<><> (5) Gruber was there when Hillarycare was developed.

<><>(6) Another Gruber confession involved a conspiracy w/ Teddy Kennedy's govt fraud---manipulating Medicare for some $500 million----to secretly finance Romneycare.

<><>(7) A former adviser to then-HHS Secy Kathleen Sebelius told the NYT Gruber was on-board whie the govt was formulating the plan.

<><> (8) According BarackObama.com 2012, President Obama's official website, Jon Gruber "helped write Obamacare....w/ specific quotes from Obama tying Mitt Romney to ObamaCare...saying that "RomneyCare" was the model for Obamacare.

<><> (9) The Congressional Budget Office Effectively Used Gruber’s Model to Score Obamacare.

In sum, the makings of a conpiracy are documented---Gruber had influence over the CBO, the White House, and Congress alike. It's hard to overestimate his importance; Gruber's role was central to the efforts of President Obama and his Democratic allies to shove Obamacare down an unwilling citizenry’s throat.

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I'M SURE VALERIE KNOWS (/SNIX)---Obama is downplaying Gruber's role, claiming he had no part in passing healthcare.

But if Gruber was NOT the Obamacare architect---then Gruber took money under false pretenses and should be prosecuted for govt fraud. He took tax dollars from the feds and state govts "posing" as an expert.

TAXPAYERS DEMAND CONGRESS GET ANSWERS WRT GRUBER'S CASHING-IN ON THE BACKS OF "STUPID" TAXPAYERS

Four U.S. states and the federal government (read taxpayers) have padded Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber's wallet to the tune of $5.9 million since 2000, including millions connected to his work on the Affordable Care Act.

We need investigations---to see how our tax dollars changed hands---and landed into Gruber's pockets. The disdainful, preening Gruber was paid tax dollars to spin his web of lies...and to reiterate his contempt for taxpayers who are footing the bills.

Even more disturbing is the massive, multi-billion-dollar slush fund the self-serving Gruber hid from "stupid" Americans in Obamacare. Gruber made dam sure it was kept hidden from us stupid taxpayers.

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The Untraceable $8 Billion ObamaCare PR Budget---truly govt fraud at its finest. Egged on by Pelosi, Democrats slavishly voted for Obamacare by an historic straignt-party line vote. But not one Democrat told Americans about Obamacare's Section 4002---which mandates an $8B untraceable fund to "promote" Obamacare (apparently b/c Boobamba had so little confidence in his signature legislation).

THE PAYOFF--WHO GETS THE MONEY? In 2010 Taxpayers are extorted $500 million, in 2011, $750 million, 2012, $1 billion, 2013, $1.25 billion, 2014, $1.5 billion, and, in 2015 and on, $2 billion

<><> Where is all that money going?

<><> Was cashing-in the incentive in getting the thing passed.

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Taxpayers demand to know ---- why Gruber/Obama/Pelosi didnt reveal that Obamacare contains a multi-billion dollar slush fund?

Exactly who is cashing in?

The sound of West Wing wire-transfers to offshore banks is almost palpable.

[Liz]

GRUBER AND HEALTHCARE BEGAN WITH HILLARYCARE Gruber was all over the Clinton admin like a cheap suit.

GRUBER CRUNCHED THE NUMBERS FOR CLINTONS' ECONOMIC POLICY BASED ON FREE-FOR-ALL ABORTION

"We had 100 times as many people move from poverty into the middle class," Bill Clinton told an appreciative audience during a cocktail hour hosted by POLITICO, marking the 10th anniversary of the Clinton Presidential Center. "This shows the importance of policy," he continued. "We can do this again.”

OOPS--Clinton plumb "forgot" MIT Professor Jonathan Gruber crunched those numbers for the ever-ambitious Clintons....basing the numbers on the Clintons' knee-bending abortion worship. Read on.

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World Net Daily reported November 14, 2014
BY Jerome R. Corsi / FR Posted by Cincinatus' Wife

NEW YORK – Obamacare architect, Jonathan Gruber, (exposed for his frank admissions that passing Obama's signature legislation required lying to "stupid" Americans)......published a paper during the Clinton administration observing that legalizing abortion saved the government $14B in assistance to economically disadvantaged mothers, including African Americans.....and lowered crime.

MIT economics professor Jonathan Gruber argued in his Clinton paper that without the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision, “marginal children” would have been born to many poor mothers. Gruber said statistics show these aborted children would have been 70 percent more likely to live in a single-parent family, 40 percent more likely to live in poverty, 50 percent more likely to receive welfare and 35 percent more likely to die as an infant.

Economist Steven D. Levitt and journalist Stephen J. Dubner in their bestselling 2005 book, “Freakonomics,” relied on MIT Professor Jonathan Gruber’s work to argue that legalizing abortion was responsible for an approximately 50 percent reduction of crime in major urban centers in the early 1990s. more at wnd.com

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Gruber advised on Hillarycare as part of the progressive's "Alliance for Health Reform."

SOURCE Health Reforms May Hurt Uninsured - Study analyzes hospitals in California
THE SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE - Saturday, January 30, 1993
Author: Jonathan Marshall, Chronicle Staff Writer

CIRCA 1993---Health care reforms under consideration by the Bill Clinton administration could backfire against uninsured patients, a new study of California hospitals suggests. A move in California in the 1980s to control the upward spiral of medical costs by encouraging price competition produced discounts of nearly 5 percent for paying patients, according to an analysis released by the National Bureau of Economic Research, an academic clearinghouse in Cambridge, Mass.

Price competition is a key element in ``managed competition’’ and ``managed care’’ scenarios being reviewed by a White House task force led by (a very ambitious First Lady) Hillary Clinton.

At the same time, however, the move to competition also slashed the amount of uncompensated care 36 percent from its expected value.

``The bottom line I want to push is that if you lower the price of care, it may . . . not be unambiguously good if it means kicking out the uninsured,’’ said Jonathan Gruber, a Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist who authored the study. (snip) (no link)