[lbryce]

Okay.I know this is a very serious issue and this article in its warmonger, worst case scenario perspective is very scary. But so is a Tom Clancy spy novel. The underlying plot line in all of the Cold War fiction novels has always been the fear of unleashing nuclear war. But as I was reading the article, a strange thought hibernating deep within my subconscious popped into my head, echoing a phrase that I myself have always loathed.
Not this stuff again!
And I kind of laughed to myself.
My point is, with the litany of crises, new and old, we've been inundated with for years, an illegitimate enemy foreigner running the government having already wreaked havoc, mayhem in any, every way conceivable and having told us in so many words, I intend to destroy you and your now has-been country, absolutely, totally, indubitably, economic depression, financial meltdown, biblical plague, mass invasion of diseased zombie-hordes, subterfuge, upheaval, social disintegration, threat of racial war, morality, family values nearly non-existent, global warming, global cooling, rising up from beneath the deepest sub-structure of the Earth's core straight out of hell Satan's Muslim Zombie Army marching out of the ground like teeming ants abandoning their earthen mound, raping, pillaging, beheading every living non-Muslim entity they manage to grab a hold of threatening to reclaim all that was stolen from them by Christian and Jew infidels since the 7th Century that was never theirs, Israel in the throes of its worst existentialist crisis since Eve ate the apple, the whole damm planet, its inhabitants, its very civilization coming apart at the seams and now as if we didn't have enough things to destroy our way of life, world, we've got Putin armed to the teeth ready, willing and able to destroy the world. And so I chuckled to myself thinking about my reaction to Putin's World War 3 Victory shmooze, to tell him, hey, Pooty, wanna blow the West up with your new super-weapons to avenge having taken your wall down and claim victory in the Cold War in the name of the long time defunct See, See, See, Pee??? Take a damm number and sit right there until you're called.

[urbanpovertylawcenter]

Russia needs the Ukraine to feed its people during the coming mini ice age.

Putin does what it takes to protect his people and our dufus POTUS does everything in his power to weaken and threaten his.

I would take Putin over this current Jack-Lilly any day.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

No one “wins” a nuclear world war 3. That said, there have been in the past and will be in the future criminally insane individuals who are given or who steal ultimate power in their country and are willing to try to “win” such a war anyway. That’s why who has this sort of weapon has always mattered.

Of course it may only be delaying the inevitable.

[556x45]

Im not sure Russia or China need better weapons systems. They only need to assure liberals & RINOs continue to run our country.

[Morpheus2009]

America’s atrophy in political will/intelligence will open itself up to getting beat. America has the political equivalent of AIDS, you get increasingly incompetent politicians, and your nation gets increasingly vulnerable to internal decay, corruption, and attack. SO I will call America’s problem APDS, or Acquired Politicial Deficiency Syndrome.

[puppypusher]

If one tactical missile should detonate over a western country,that will be the end because that geni will not be returned to its bottle.

The west will have to retaliate.

[IncPen]

The biggest mistake in this scenario is assuming that Obama and Putin are at odds.

[Bogie]

Win? How sick is this?

[The Duke]

That’s right – new tactical nuclear weapons - as in “yeah, we might use them since their only tactical.”

The author lost me at "their".

[Herakles]

I’m a nuke from the generation that built the stuff we currently have,yea, a really old nuke that has been around!

The majority of us who designed that stuff are no longer here. A meeting I attended 5 years ago made it clear that the DOD knew the all the nuke designers were gone since we had won the cold war (barf) and old nukes from the sputnik generation were gone;their experience walked out the door not to be replaced. According to Secretary Gates, the US was the only nuclear power that no longer had the capability to design and build a new nuclear weapon!

I have been wandering when someone out there realized what I know. Some of the old nukes have vacuum tube technology. Warheads degrade in power. The old launch systems can’t blow their silo blocks in snow, let alone a couple hundred feet of rubble. No nukes are loaded on the B52’s, B1’s, or B2’s we have (as if in a first strike someone will give us a timeout!) The only system that may work are the navy boomers and a great deal of those have been fixed with conventional Warheads (huh?). If the nukes we have are used, chances are we will be throwing duds. In answer to my concerns, the Russians have figured it out and that may be enough for them to give it a shot.

The Congress and administrations for the last 30 years through their short sightedness has put our nation in peril to the point of treason!

[hoagy62]

I read this and it triggered a memory.

I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of someone named “John Titor”. Back in the late 90’s, someone by that name was posting on Usenet in a few newsgroups, claiming to be a time traveler from somewhere in the 2030’s or such. The story has been talked about on ‘Coast to Coast’, and there are a couple websites dedicated to the guy.

In any case, one of the claims he made was that in 2015, Russia launches a nuclear war against major US cities, essentially destroying the US, but not totally. Five separate countries rise up in it’s place. In the aftermath, the attack is seen by the world...and the US survivors... as a GOOD thing, since the government was getting out of control.

He never gave an exact time for the attack, but did say it was in mid-January, 2015.

Now, granted...he also predicted a multi-year civil war leading up to the attack...which obviously hasn’t happened.

Do I believe this “John Titor” or whoever he was? No, not really. Still, it triggered the memory of what I read about him.

Anyway...back to the thread.

[Little Ray]

No one can “win” a nuclear war, unless you define “win” as surviving.
I’m not sure what would be worth a nuclear exchange. What are we doing that Russians want to stop, and what are they doing that is worth nuking them? It isn’t like we’re seeing hordes of tanks advancing across Europe.

[mac_truck]

Part of the reason the deep state has resurrected the image of the evil Russian boogieman in the public imagination of the West is to keep their attention focused away from the more serious and challenging problems presented by the teeming hordes of radical jihadi zombies worldwide.

It's less like reading a Tom Clancy novel than it is like watching a formalistic B-rated horror movie for the second or third time.

[The Toll]

At least the Russia is Russian. Unlike America.