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To: Steven Scharf

I’m thinking it will be a awhile before the French have a real bridgehead across the Rhine. If I remember from my reading correctly, when the Americans started crossing the Rhine for real, the French had to commandeer a few rowboats to get some men east of the river quick so that they wouldn’t lose prestige. They were real big on trying to rebuild their prestige.


16 posted on 11/21/2014 9:02:22 AM PST by EternalVigilance ('Executive amnesty' is a euphemism for treason.)
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To: EternalVigilance; Steven Scharf

Both the Times and the German maps are incorrect. The French have not crossed the Rhine, unless it’s to send over a few patrols. There will be no bridgeheads over the Rhine this winter. And the German situation maps are fun to read but sometimes inaccurate. I’ve found a few errors in the past so as to details on positions they should be taken with a grain of salt. I would guess that the main reasons for this are that the information is being garbled as it goes up the chain of command, as Nazi Germany approaches the end, there is an increasing breakdown and disintegration of command and communications networks, and finally the people giving the information want to put a positive spin on it for Hitler.

The best uses for the German maps is for identification of their units and for those ocasions where they show their intelligence estimates of Allied forces.


17 posted on 11/21/2014 10:13:23 AM PST by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: EternalVigilance
From Atkinson's The Guns at Last Light

"The French, who had been the first on the Rhine in November, were last to leap it..."

There is a wonderful quote from De Galle to de Lattre, but since it won't be until the end of March, I'll hold off on the quote until then.

31 posted on 11/21/2014 12:53:09 PM PST by occamrzr06 (A great life is but a series of dogs!)
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