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Archdiocese reports roughly $9 million deficit; considering bankruptcy
Pioneer Press ^ | 11-20-14 | Staff

Posted on 11/21/2014 5:18:34 AM PST by TurboZamboni

The Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis reported a $9.1 million operating deficit for fiscal year 2014 and reiterated Thursday that it's considering filing for bankruptcy because of the potential for more lawsuits by victims of clergy sexual abuse.

The archdiocese released its financial information in its newspaper, the Catholic Spirit, more than a week after it said it was cutting its central office budget by 20 percent, including 11 jobs. Archbishop John Nienstedt called the situation "disheartening" but wrote that the chancery's finances won't directly affect parishes, schools or other Catholic institutions.

"I am determined to see that the ministries and essential services provided by the Chancery Corporation will continue," he wrote.

The archdiocese said its operating deficit can be partly attributed to $4.1 million spent to address allegations of clergy sexual abuse since May 2013, when a three-year window opened for abuse victims to file claims that were otherwise barred under the statute of limitations.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: abuse; broke; debt; lawsuits; nienstedt
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To: Lurker
True that. The Diocese is broke, because people like myself, do not abandon the Church because of bad actors, but we don't give money to them either. I was in the Diocese of Winona. There were far to many lefties there. My envelope went into the plate, empty. I did not support the Bishops Appeal. There are plenty of Catholic organizations who are worthy of my money, they got it instead. I never had to say a word. They get it.
21 posted on 11/21/2014 6:54:20 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: defconw

See, Rome has plenty of assets to adequately pay all of her victims. I suppose it’s just good business to bankrupt one entity while others keep on trucking.


22 posted on 11/21/2014 7:02:51 AM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: defconw

The problem is that the Vatican is part and parcel to this, they are complicit as well. When your leadership is involved in a cover-up, then the fish appears to be rotting from the head. I agree that there is likely a much larger portion of “good priests”, etc... but the optics of this and the insinuations that necessarily come from it are what is driving the continuous re-hashing of the problems inherent in the RCC hierarchy.

This is similar to what is going on with the presidency and the current cabinet - corruption at the top fostering corruption throughout.


23 posted on 11/21/2014 7:03:48 AM PST by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: .45 Long Colt

A diocese is responsible for themselves. Every Parish is responsible for themselves. Now a loan might be issued and my guess is this Diocese is whining in order to get Rome’s attention.


24 posted on 11/21/2014 7:15:22 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: jurroppi1
I would say 95% is a good deal more then a larger portion. The Vatican is not omnipresent! They are also not US Steel. It does not work that way.
25 posted on 11/21/2014 7:17:08 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: defconw
True that. The Diocese is broke, because people like myself...don't give money to them either. I was in the Diocese of Winona. There were far to many lefties there. My envelope went into the plate, empty. I did not support the Bishops Appeal. There are plenty of Catholic organizations who are worthy of my money, they got it instead. I never had to say a word. They get it.

Did the diocese get any of your money, or did it all go to these other "Catholic organizations"? Could it be that the same "empty envelope" behaviors took hold with the parishioners in the archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis, leading them into near-bankruptcy today?

Would you say that any Catholic dioceses deserve bankruptcy?

26 posted on 11/21/2014 7:23:26 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

The Papa Francisco-less Orthodox Catholic Church down the street is accepting new members, and like the original 12 apostles many of their priests have orthodox marriages.


27 posted on 11/21/2014 7:28:43 AM PST by Reeses
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To: Alex Murphy
Well if they are fiscally irresponsible yes. If they did not police their priest, then yes. I know who got my money and it was not the Diocese. Of course as stated I was in the Diocese of Winona.

Also it should be noted that Catholics have dispersed. We are no longer living in ethnic conclaves in large cities anymore. White flight and all. So it is not at all surprising that the large city Dioceses are struggling.

28 posted on 11/21/2014 7:30:38 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Church and politics are two separate things.

Separate the faith from the modernistic secularism.


29 posted on 11/21/2014 8:20:44 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: .45 Long Colt

This is a local issue.


30 posted on 11/21/2014 8:22:17 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

That’s laughable. The decisions about handling these cases went far beyond (above) Minnesota. Because of a molestation case I once handled I got involved with SNAP, so I know the dirty heartbreaking specifics of some of these cases. I promise I know what I am talking about.

And there’s the whole Roman rhetoric about one true church that you yourself spout here all the time. Are you one true holy church or not? Apparently you are one church in some areas but not others. Seems to me you are one when it suits Rome, but not when it interferes with her business. Got to keep the cash flowing and protect all those gold trinkets.


31 posted on 11/21/2014 9:11:57 AM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: defconw

That’s just good business I suppose. Thanks for agreeing with me that the stuff Catholics say here about being one true church is just so much nonsense.


32 posted on 11/21/2014 9:13:21 AM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

You are mixing apples and oranges. Finances and faith are not the same thing. But thanks for trying.


33 posted on 11/21/2014 9:30:44 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: defconw

I would say that 88% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Add to it that it doesn’t matter how many good priests are actually dispersed throughout the various churches, the hierarchy well beyond the MN archdiocese had its hands in the coverup - it went out to Washington and beyond. This poisons the well, because they are the church leaders that are giving the various churches their marching orders - they are the chain of command.


34 posted on 11/21/2014 9:41:19 AM PST by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: jurroppi1
Google it. 5% percent accused. Less than 1% actually convicted. This has been going on for ten years. It has and is being delt with. But the whole beam in the eye thing, just really doesn't sink in with most folks.

I guess it makes you happy! Whatever!

35 posted on 11/21/2014 9:45:41 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: defconw

That’s hysterical. Surely you don’t believe that. Finances tell us a story about your faith and vice versa. You can’t separate the two. Your church’s finances have been quite the testimony for centuries. Tetzel’s indulgence con played a role in sparking the Reformation.


36 posted on 11/21/2014 12:31:38 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

Attorney: L.A. schools pay ‘largest’ public settlement for child abuse at $139 million

By Michael Martinez, CNN

updated 6:43 PM EST, Fri November 21, 2014
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/21/us/los-angeles-student-lewd-abuse-settlement/index.html

And local taxpayers don’t get an option to NOT pay this or NOT send their kids to L.A. schools. This is what faith in the ‘church’ of big gubmint get people.


37 posted on 11/21/2014 4:34:56 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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