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1 posted on 11/26/2014 6:57:35 AM PST by Jacquerie
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To: Jacquerie

If we stop defending her, we lose!


2 posted on 11/26/2014 6:58:57 AM PST by Dick Bachert (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Jacquerie

The Roman Empire didn’t “fall,” it dissipated. The Roman Civilisation declined rather more precipitously 3 centuries later when the Moslems severed the trade links with the Levant and ended the supply of papyrus. Literacy declined rapidly and with it everything else.


3 posted on 11/26/2014 7:02:44 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Jacquerie

It’s worth defending to continue to stand against BO and any other BO like that comes along.


4 posted on 11/26/2014 7:04:18 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Jacquerie
Rulers live separate existences in an imperial city, far removed in interest and wealth from the ruled.

Except they are not removed at all from our wealth, but your bigger point is 100% correct. THUS this: www.iCongressnow.com

5 posted on 11/26/2014 7:04:19 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Jacquerie
Rulers live separate existences in an imperial city, far removed in interest and wealth from the ruled.

Just like the capitol city in The Hunger Games.

8 posted on 11/26/2014 7:11:27 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: Jacquerie
For centuries, Roman citizenship was a precious possession, a jewel of unsurpassed value. As such it was held closely and kept in short supply, for among other privileges, the Roman citizen wasn’t taxed.

Not exactly true. Italy was not taxed for a considerable time, but simple Roman citizenship did not exclude one from taxation. In fact, the main reason given, even at the time, for Caracalla's Edict giving citizenship to all free men of the Empire was to expose them to taxes non-Romans had previously not been liable to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutio_Antoniniana

He was exempt from the possibility of torture, and could under certain circumstances appeal judicial rulings to the Emperor.

True, but always in theory. Under the Empire, anybody the Emperor wanted tortured was tortured.

Citizenship was given to all in 212. Even if we take the author's 410, that 200 years. A causing B doesn't seem particularly likely.

10 posted on 11/26/2014 7:14:56 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Jacquerie

Good post. Very chilling to see it all laid out there.


13 posted on 11/26/2014 7:26:24 AM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Jacquerie

Read City of God by Augustine.


14 posted on 11/26/2014 7:30:15 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Jacquerie

The barbarians are at the gates of St. Louis. But we have a barbarian resident in the white hut.....so for now we’re screwed


22 posted on 11/26/2014 7:42:18 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Jacquerie

What republic?


26 posted on 11/26/2014 7:51:32 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jacquerie

And what would you do instead?


35 posted on 11/26/2014 9:16:52 AM PST by Nifster
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BTTT for later read.

/to work


37 posted on 11/26/2014 9:34:10 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Jacquerie

All the Western nations are in some form of decline. Some more so than others, but the self-loathing & collapse of the Western nation-state as we have known it is coming.


40 posted on 11/26/2014 10:39:37 AM PST by LongWayHome
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