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To: logi_cal869
1. Bush's wars against Saddam Hussein and the Taliban were not wrong. They were right. Bush was not wrong, you are wrong.

2. Your son is not a child, he's a man and he makes his own decisions. You won't stop him from going to war because you can't.

3. There is nothing we can do to stop the alliance between Russia and China. They have allied because they are both our enemies and so they will join forces to do whatever they can to hurt us. No amount of kissing Russian ass is ever going to change that, Putin or no Putin.

4. Confronting our Russian enemies is in our best interests. Capitulating to our Russian enemies who mean to do us harm is not in our interests and never will be.

5. If we have a war with Russia, those of us who insisted that we should prepare to defeat our Russian enemies will be proved right. Those of you who said we should bend over and beg our Russian enemies to be our friends will be shown for the Quislings you are.

62 posted on 11/30/2014 8:56:49 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

1. Again with the ‘words in my mouth’. I never stated ‘wrong’ (I wrote ‘lied’). The wars were planned & prosecuted BADLY and, worse, the after-action plan did not consider ‘culture’. All we did was make the whole region unstable. After being involved in Iraq for over a decade, one would think our government might have had a clue; apparently not. We had a plan for post-war Japan & Germany; no such plan existed in a basis of reality for Iraq & AF. The proof is in repeating history in AF and the Iraqi failed State. I now see I’ve got another GW apologist on the hook. He approved all the shitty plans out of the Pentagon & State Dept. We can argue about it all day long, but if GW was so right about everything, he wouldn’t be sitting in his little cocoon stating, “I’m retired”, content to watch the country go down the tubes...

2. I know things you’ll never know and can never write here. Most have NO IDEA how bad morale is and how bad things are. If he knew then what he knows now, he would stop his buddies from dying for political points.

3. Nothing we can do NOW. Besides, we’re friends with China. /s Your harsh rhetoric on Russia is misplaced. Putin beats the bear’s chest as a show of force against China, their true enemy. At least they understand geo-political logic when it comes to a nearby enemy.

4. You’re nonsensical. That is a laughable Casus belli.

5. Putting words in my mouth again and name-calling. Lost the debate, you have.

Touche’.

It’s a pity we have to be so diametrically opposed on one stupid issue when we both have much the same views. An intelligent person would note that and wonder out loud how successful the Left’s tactics have been at dividing the Right...and continue to do so.

You can resort to your desperate name-calling and derogatory statements but it won’t change the fact that while I may not have all the answers, I’m not ‘wrong’. Your initial statement suggested we should hang our soldiers out there as ‘targets’; I take GREAT offense at that statement and was the motive for my first comment. Much MUCH MORE so than your pathetic, juvenile ‘traitor’ label on me (laughable, btw, and not very clever at that).

If you have more defensive, nonsensical rantings on Russia to try to convince yourself and others that you are anything but in left-field on this, please delay until the morning; you may be more help than you know...


63 posted on 11/30/2014 10:29:28 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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