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Krauthammer: Decision not to indict NYPD officer 'totally incomprehensible'
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/12/03/krauthammer-decision-not-to-indict-nypd-officer-totally-incomprehensible/ ^

Posted on 12/03/2014 8:58:20 PM PST by TigerClaws

Charles Krauthammer said Wednesday on "Special Report with Bret Baier" that a grand jury's decision not to indict a New York City police officer in the death of Eric Garner, an unarmed black man who died in July after the officer placed him in a chokehold, is "totally incomprehensible."

"It looks like they at least might have indicted him on something like involuntary manslaughter at the very least," Krauthammer, a syndicated columnist and Fox News contributor, said. "The guy was unarmed, and the crime was petty as they come. He was selling loose cigarettes, which in and of itself is almost absurd that somebody has to die over that."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: ericgarner; excessiveforce; manslaughter; pantaleo
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To: Aurorales

Since it has been called a homicide, who did kill him, if not the cop?


261 posted on 12/04/2014 6:50:35 AM PST by sakic
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To: HamiltonJay

Morons?

It is called difference of opinion.

Name calling is frowned upon on FR. And does nothing to help you win your argument.


262 posted on 12/04/2014 6:51:28 AM PST by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: Aurorales

You amusing attempts at justification of the cops actions not withstanding, the mans death was ruled a HOMOCIDE by the medical examiner. Yes, we all know the cop didn’t just cut off his air supply until he died of asphyxiation, but he died due to the fact he was choked... You can play semantics but it doesn’t change the outcome of the fact the cop broke the law and got off scott free and his actions killed a man.


263 posted on 12/04/2014 6:51:52 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: kearnyirish2

You don’t need to see what emerges, you can go watch the full videotape, the cop jumps on his back and puts him and keeps him in a full locked choke hold... The evidence is undeniable.


264 posted on 12/04/2014 6:52:55 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: sakic

It is called an accident. The cop did nothing wrong. You can cause or help cause a death and not be at fault.


265 posted on 12/04/2014 6:53:58 AM PST by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: bray

Are you serious? If you are speaking about Krauthammer was going to Harvard med school until an accident broke his back, you really need to research a bit, especially about public figures, before you espouse such ignorance.


266 posted on 12/04/2014 6:54:55 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: tanknetter

Good point.


267 posted on 12/04/2014 6:55:52 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: HamiltonJay

My arguments are facts and not meant to amuse.

I can’t breathe. Hands up - don’t shoot.
Both are BS


268 posted on 12/04/2014 6:56:28 AM PST by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: Redbob
Police departments can’t just hire men because they’re bigger, stronger, and physically capable of doing the job: they have to hire women too.

I agree with that. Actually, I was just giving an example of how a wily senior LEO might handle this situation.

I just seems to me that it is always the young rough and ready troops that resort to physical confrontation at the first sign of disagreement. As they get more experience they will learn that there can be unintended consequences. If they don't they will not be on the force for very long.

269 posted on 12/04/2014 6:57:23 AM PST by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Aurorales

Actually, that is called manslaughter or reckless endangerment. This was no accident.

I think some of you react as knee-jerk as Sharpton.

Sometimes cops are in the wrong.


270 posted on 12/04/2014 6:57:38 AM PST by sakic
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To: Aurorales

The fact is that the ME has called it homicide.


271 posted on 12/04/2014 6:59:21 AM PST by sakic
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To: HamiltonJay

The cop DIDN’T “choke him out”.

My word....if he was speaking he wasn’t choking. Lay off it.

The human body needs air to speak. It is about human anatomy.


272 posted on 12/04/2014 7:00:44 AM PST by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: Aurorales

Wow, you just keep digging a hole, you are just a special kind of “Isn’t that sweet” aren’t you?

Have you ever suffered from an asthma attack? Or had your wind knocked out of you, or had your larnyx crushed, had water go down the wrong pipe or witnessed any of these events? I have, and in nearly every instance when its severe the person complains they cannot breath, even though it is obvious they are able to breath at some level. You’re attempt to claim this man was somehow engaging in a conscious lie when complaining he couldn’t breath, yet died from compression of the neck and chest, as ruled by the medical examiner is just well as my grandma would say “a certain kind of special”.

You and other rubes ignorant attempts to link/equate this incident with the one in MO. is just so fundamentally foolish that it makes me question whether their parents were blood relatives.

This case was a clear cut case of police abusing their power, breaking the law, and while unintentional, killing a suspect. Furgeson was a clear cut case of a justifiable homicide of a violent suspect, who race hustlers and poverty pimps tried to make something else. Your attempts to equate the two are repugnant and ignorant.


273 posted on 12/04/2014 7:04:46 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Aurorales

It needs to exhale air to speak, not inhale. The fact a human being can speak, does not mean, as much as you like to think that the person is inhaling adequate air to maintain consciousness or life.

You wish to argue anatomy, go learn a bit more about it.


274 posted on 12/04/2014 7:07:26 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

That is the attitude to support incompetence and indifference among the union workers who do policing now.

275 posted on 12/04/2014 7:07:42 AM PST by ansel12
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To: All

I am sick of this case already.

There are many grand jury decisions on any given day. We are being led by the media to focus on this one.

This decision should have no impact on any of our lives.

Meanwhile, Obama laughs at our attention being focused on this baloney.

I now refuse to play this game.


276 posted on 12/04/2014 7:08:17 AM PST by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: Aurorales

You won’t play because you are playing a losing hand and refuse to stay on topic.


277 posted on 12/04/2014 7:16:20 AM PST by sakic
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To: HamiltonJay

I spent a few years studying speech. Speech pathology to be exact.

Believe me, you need a large amount of air to speak. In and out. He was also speaking loudly.
Plus it takes a lot of effort to breath and speak. He had the muscle power and air to say “I can’t breathe”.

Watch Krauthammer speak on Fox news if you don’t believe. He has to inhale very visibly to speak. It is very easy to see how much effort it takes to speak watching him.

Anatomy of the speech mechanism....that I DO know something about.


278 posted on 12/04/2014 7:16:40 AM PST by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: sakic

No...I refuse to believe the man was choked or died of asphyxiation.

I am dealing in facts.


279 posted on 12/04/2014 7:18:11 AM PST by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: chris37

There are lots of choke types, you are right that this wasn’t a rear naked choke, it was a lateral vascular. It chokes both the arteries and veins on both sides of the neck. It also can choke off air supply if done improperly.


280 posted on 12/04/2014 7:22:40 AM PST by jkeith3213
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