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To: Norseman

The man said he couldn’t breathe and now he is dead. Why don’t you explain how he could actually be breathing since you are knowledgeable on that sort of thing. Cops are entitled to use the amount of force needed to subdue a criminal, they are not authorized to be executioners unless absolutely necessary.


79 posted on 12/05/2014 7:48:28 AM PST by armydawg505
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To: Norseman

From the Hannity show:

Dr Michael Baden, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: Well, first of all, I agree with you that it’s silly to go after somebody for selling single cigarettes —

HANNITY: It’s stupid!

BADEN: — in a community to people who can’t afford to buy —

HANNITY: A full pack.

BADEN: — a whole pack of cigarettes.

HANNITY: Six dollars in taxes for one pack in New York City!

BADEN: But I think the autopsy itself — the medical examiner did a great job on this. There’s 27 pages in the report. And the female (ph), she found that there were 10 hemorrhages on the inside of the neck, in the muscles of the neck, petechial hemorrhages in the eye, hemorrhage in the tongue. And those are all evidence of neck compression. You’re right, chokehold has many different meanings in all. What we’re concerned at autopsy is was there pressure on the neck.

HANNITY: Right.

BADEN: There was pressure on the neck and pressure on the chest.

HANNITY: I don’t doubt it. This is a big guy.

BADEN: Pressure on the chest that interferes with the lungs expanding and —

HANNITY: But they also —

(CROSSTALK)

BADEN: And hands on the face and nose. So he couldn’t breathe, and he was telling the truth.

HANNITY: But he was still talking does. That impact his ability to talk, if he can’t breathe?

BADEN: Yes, no, you can say, I can’t breathe.

HANNITY: You can.

BADEN: Absolutely.”

So: she found that there were 10 hemorrhages on the inside of the neck, in the muscles of the neck, petechial hemorrhages in the eye, hemorrhage in the tongue. And those are all evidence of neck compression.

So he couldn’t breathe, and he was telling the truth.

HANNITY: But he was still talking does. That impact his ability to talk, if he can’t breathe?

BADEN: Yes, no, you can say, I can’t breathe.

The cop is guilty of at least manslaughter.


82 posted on 12/05/2014 8:03:07 AM PST by armydawg505
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To: armydawg505

Note that I said he couldn’t breathe if he was choking. I didn’t say that he couldn’t breathe if he was talking. There’s a difference.

If he was in a chokehold, i.e., being choked, he would not be able to breathe or talk. If he was unable to take a breath (even if he wasn’t being choked, but was for example suffering an asthma attack) he would still be able to expel the air needed to say “I can’t breathe.”

Again, he resisted arrest. The police took him down. If you’re in lousy health to start with, don’t resist arrest. If he had not resisted it’s likely he’d still be alive today. Calling the cop, who was doing his job, an executioner, is inane.


84 posted on 12/05/2014 9:29:12 AM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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