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The case of the missing 13th amendment to the Constitution
National Constitution Center, Yahoo News ^ | 2014-12-06 | Scott Bomboy

Posted on 12/06/2014 7:35:41 AM PST by WhiskeyX

A few years ago, a group of Iowa Republicans claimed the legitimate 13th Amendment to the Constitution was “missing.” The debate is part of a historical detective story with some surprising twists that is still taking place.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 13thamendment; 13thamendmentscam; barkingmoonbats; checkbeforeyoupost; constitution; daviddodge; dunderheads; hoax; howmanymoretimes; idiots; jackasses; missingamendment; missingamendmenthoax; morons; ntsa; ohjuststop; thirteenthamendment; tomdunn; tona

1 posted on 12/06/2014 7:35:41 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

“That “missing” proposal was called the “Titles of Nobility Amendment” (or TONA). It sought to ban any American citizen from receiving any foreign title of nobility or receiving foreign favors, such as a pension, without congressional approval. The penalty was loss of citizenship.”

Too bad it didn’t say anything about a current sitting president acting like nobility - to where him and his wife are tried and place in prison!


2 posted on 12/06/2014 7:42:01 AM PST by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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To: WhiskeyX

An interesting historical book about an the enigmatic 25th Amendment is THE WATERGATE AMENDMENT. Amazon.com


3 posted on 12/06/2014 7:47:46 AM PST by bondsman (Bondsman)
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To: BCW
tried and place in prison!


4 posted on 12/06/2014 7:50:21 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: BCW

We have a lot of things to fix once he’s out office so a president can never use executive orders in the same fashion ever again. Obviously lacking checks and balances.


5 posted on 12/06/2014 8:00:11 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: WhiskeyX

I remember when this story first came to light 30 years ago, it would have removed citizenship from LAWYERS and disallowed LAWYERS from Government. Not sure where I have the “Original” Story from 30 years ago, but I do have it somewhere, and it was rather detailed as to the Meaning of the Words used at the Time it was proposed.

http://www.libertyforlife.com/constitution/missing_13th_amendment.htm


6 posted on 12/06/2014 8:03:55 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: BCW
Ronald Reagan got $2 million for giving a speech in Japan, Bill Clinton got dough from the Saudis, Chinese and Indonesians. I would not be surprised if the Bush's got money from the Saudis, Kuwaitis and others. Obama got campaign funds from all over the world intentionally.

No one enforces campaign finance laws on the establishment only underfunded challengers.

7 posted on 12/06/2014 8:12:08 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have freedom or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: WhiskeyX
An amendment is just that.

The original "Titles of Nobility etc" in the Constitution stood.

8 posted on 12/06/2014 8:19:22 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: MUDDOG

Frog march in an orange jump suit crushing stones at Leavenworth.


9 posted on 12/06/2014 8:19:22 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: jsanders2001

The only good thing is that it can be deleted by the next president. That’s why Obama put the 3 year clause into the immigration “order”....to be able to make it an issue for the 2016 election. e.g.....”We already know that the republicans will delete my executive order to “protect” you from deportation.” He’s so darn clever.


10 posted on 12/06/2014 8:23:44 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
The last I read there is no official “EO”. Can you enlighten me?
11 posted on 12/06/2014 8:44:52 AM PST by justrepublican (Screaming like a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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To: MUDDOG

Would that I may live long enough to see that image in real time.


12 posted on 12/06/2014 8:48:04 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Sacajaweau

Never mind . No brain function with this head cold.


13 posted on 12/06/2014 8:55:09 AM PST by justrepublican (Screaming like a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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To: WhiskeyX

Jefferson made his own bible and Obama made his own Constitution cut and past works for him.


14 posted on 12/06/2014 9:04:27 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: justrepublican

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/11/21/President-Obama-officially-signs-immigration-executive-order-in-Las-Vegas-high-school/8021416606089/


15 posted on 12/06/2014 9:42:59 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: WhiskeyX

Below are a couple of excerpts from a Phil Gramm speech made on July Fourth, in the year 2000 at the National Liberal Club located in the City of London. He is talking about a free trade agreement with Great Britain.

“...Let me say that this is not an issue that Americans get up in the morning thinking about. But I would be willing to say that with a weeks work I could offer an amendment in the Senate - and have it adopted - which would give the president the power, the mandate to begin to move towards negotiating a free trade agreement with the UK.”

“... It is not being discussed because Americans don’t know that this is an issue here. But they will.”

And my least favorite passage
...But don’t be confused: we are English.

I always thought that last line was not only strange for a Senator’s 4th of July speech but offensive. It sounded like a reaffirmation of fealty and still does; but at this point, even if the original 13th Amendment was in play, I expect any applicability would be ignored.


16 posted on 12/06/2014 10:16:52 AM PST by MurrietaMadman
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To: PoloSec

Me too.


17 posted on 12/06/2014 10:46:11 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: Sacajaweau

Your link to the article of how Obama signed an “Executive Order” is a great example of the incompetence or misinformation of the mainstream press.

He did not sign an Executive Order there, and the quote from it about “Our success as a nation” is not from an Executive Order.

It is from a Memorandum he signed.

The link is here.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/11/21/presidential-memorandum-creating-welcoming-communities-and-fully-integra

He signed two memoranda that day.

There is no Executive Order. It is almost always described as that, but it’s not.


18 posted on 12/06/2014 12:16:26 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

Thanks for straightening that out. There’s some kind of big Obama lie in all this. He certainly can’t suspend immigration laws...


19 posted on 12/06/2014 1:42:20 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: ifinnegan

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2014/12/president-obamas-executive-action-on-immigration-sets-a-dangerous-precedent


20 posted on 12/06/2014 3:29:12 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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