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To: Jack Hydrazine; All
The Founding States probably would have liked to include the wording of the 2nd Amendment (2A) in the 1st Amendment’s list of powers prohibited to the federal government. The problem is that since the states had already delegated to Congress the power to raise and support an army as evidenced by several clauses in Congress’s constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers, the states couldn’t turn around and prohibit Congress from regulating arms altogether.

Otherwise, here is one of the stronger anti-federal government personal defense arms control excerpts that I’m aware of from a Supreme Court case opinion.

"The second and tenth counts are equally defective. The right there specified is that of "bearing arms for a lawful purpose." This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government, leaving the people to look for their protection against any violation by their fellow citizens of the rights it recognizes, to what is called [emphasis added], in The City of New York v. Miln, 11 Pet. 139, the "powers which relate to merely municipal legislation, or what was, perhaps, more properly called internal police," "not surrendered or restrained" by the Constitution of the United States." —United States v. Cruikshank, 1875.

The problem with modern interpretations of 2A is the following imo. Most of us have grown up under a corrupt federal government, consequently wrongly thinking that the actions and policies of the feds are unquestionably constitutional.

Regarding federal laws which regulate arms for personal defense use for example, based on my current understanding of the history of such laws, please note the following. Such laws seem not to have appeared in the books until the time of FDR, Constitution-ignoring FDR and his corrupt Congress notorious for making laws outside the scope of Congress’s Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

Franklin Roosevelt: The Father of Gun Control

30 posted on 12/07/2014 3:30:38 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

“The problem with modern interpretations of 2A is the following imo. Most of us have grown up under a corrupt federal government, consequently wrongly thinking that the actions and policies of the feds are unquestionably constitutional.”

This is why conservatives need to have more children in terms of numbers and encourage them to go into government to serve so Leftists don’t fill those seats.

If you look at the Amidah (aka the 18 blessings; Shemoneh Esrei) in the Jewish siddur (prayer book) you will see one prayer that is applicable here.

(as translated from the Hebrew)
11. “Restore our judges, just as in the beginning, and our counselors, just as of old and remove from us grief and groaning, and reign over us, you, Adonai, alone, in lovingkindness (hesed) and mercy. Make us righteous through your righteous justice. Blessed are you, Adonai, King who possesses righteousness and justice.”

http://andrewjacobs.org/western/amidah.htm

Conservatives need to have more children than collectivists, teach them to be virtuous, and then have their children serve in various capacities from dog catcher to POTUS and you’ll get less corruption. It won’t eliminate it, but it’ll certainly reduce it to a minimum.

Conservatives need to become the leaders in the various storytelling industries of religion, government, education, and media.


33 posted on 12/07/2014 3:53:40 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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