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To: refermech; Age of Reason; July4; Morgana; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; ...
Women never lie, do they?

It appears that Age of Reason, refermech and July4 believe some combination of the following:

A. Women typically lie about being raped.

B. Women don't get pregnant from rape.

C. Women who do get pregnant from rape SHOULD kill the baby.

Which is it?

Can any of you give a single reason why a woman would have a rape kit done in JANUARY if she didn't know she was pregnant until FEBRUARY?

Can any of you give a single reason why a woman would go through this elaborate ruse and then GO PUBLIC with it?

Or, do you believe that the pro-life movement is somehow so unscrupulous that they would fabricate a story about a baby conceived in rape?

Is that it? Do you believe the pro-life movement is the problem here?

Are you three among the FRiberals who think everything would be so much better if the evil pro-lifers would just go away?

61 posted on 12/09/2014 6:10:13 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Well said.


62 posted on 12/09/2014 7:49:24 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

I do not believe the A, B, or C statements that you have listed. I do believe that it is not conducive to honest debate to insult and mischaracterize speakers who do not feel that they have enough evidence to come to conclusions. I work in a field where we must deal in provable facts; there is no need to feel hostile or threatened. I, and I think the others — all the others — just want to be certain of facts. One person’s story, no matter how emotionally compelling, is just that: one person’s story. It may or may not be entirely true.


63 posted on 12/09/2014 7:59:13 AM PST by July4
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To: wagglebee

I do not believe the A, B, or C statements that you have listed. I do believe that it is not conducive to honest debate to insult and mischaracterize speakers who do not feel that they have enough evidence to come to conclusions. I work in a field where we must deal in provable facts; there is no need to feel hostile or threatened. I, and I think the others — all the others — just want to be certain of facts. One person’s story, no matter how emotionally compelling, is just that: one person’s story. It may or may not be entirely true.


64 posted on 12/09/2014 8:00:40 AM PST by July4
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To: wagglebee

This is so well posed. I’ve read several message boards commenting on this article and very few don’t devolve into name calling and mud slinging at the end. People question the legitimacy of the story because there is no mention of Plan B, because she travels for work when she has a family, because she knew immediately the child she was carrying wasn’t her husband’s. And now, the phrase “scratchy transatlantic phone calls”. Yes. Scratchy. (In 2014.) Have you ever made a phone call from the middle of the ocean in the crew’s quarters? And perhaps she considers Plan B an abortifactant, her husband has had a vasectomy,she is in a highly specialized career that affords her opportunities to work around the country or world.Maybe she rarely leaves home and this was an anomaly. These things aren’t mentioned because they aren’t relevant to the article’s purpose.
One last thing. This is an ongoing investigation. This family moved out of their home state, left everything, to feel safe...BE safe. Not all questions are going to be answered in the interest of protecting anonymity. This wasn’t shared to offer debate fodder. The author took the risk hoping to reach another woman in her situation. To show that there’s another way. A beautiful way. No one else, not the doubters nor the revilers nor the accusers, matter.
God bless you and Merry Christmas.


165 posted on 12/24/2014 9:51:53 PM PST by beauty4ashes
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