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Unloved Warthog lives to fight another day
Washington Examiner ^ | 12/8/2014 | Charles Hoskinson

Posted on 12/09/2014 9:00:06 AM PST by bkopto

The A-10 fighter jet, designed to kill Soviet tanks in Europe, made its reputation instead in America's Middle East wars. Now it's back in the region while its advocates fight off the Air Force's attempts to kill it.

A-10s from the Indiana National Guard arrived from Afghanistan last month at an air base in southwest Asia, where they will be used for missions against the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, Air Force officials said.

The plane, affectionately nicknamed the Warthog, is slow and ugly compared with the Air Force's other fighter jets, especially the stealthy, supersonic F-35 that is scheduled to replace it. But it's also heavily armed and armored, making it a deadly weapon in close-in combat against enemy ground forces and a welcome sight for friendly troops.

The Air Force says the A-10 is too old and not versatile enough to keep flying in a tight budget environment. Getting rid of the A-10 would save $4.2 billion over five years, the best value with the least loss of aircraft, Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Welch told the House Armed Services Committee in March.

But Senate and House negotiators agreed Dec. 2 to keep it flying at least through the end of fiscal 2015, forbidding the Air Force from taking it out of service.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: a10; aerospace; airforce; warthog
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1 posted on 12/09/2014 9:00:06 AM PST by bkopto
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To: bkopto

Air Force generals hate it. Grunts love it.


2 posted on 12/09/2014 9:02:16 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: bkopto

Give them to the Army and Marines along with the pilots, support and budget.


3 posted on 12/09/2014 9:03:09 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Blood of Tyrants

notice how the “cost savings” figure keeps creeping up. Earlier estimates were at $3 billion, now it’s $4.5 billion.


4 posted on 12/09/2014 9:05:47 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: taxcontrol

bump


5 posted on 12/09/2014 9:08:05 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: bkopto

From all the stories I’ve read, particularly from Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom, whenever any US Army unit, even the Marines, were under heavy fire and the A-10s showed up they felt like they were reborn. One soldier said ‘’Having A-10s watching your back was like having your big brother show up in a street fight’’. The Iraqis were poop scared of the Warthog. They called it ‘’The Monster’’. The pencil pushers and bean-counters of the Pentagon should have their butts down range sometime taking fire from the crazy goat humpers. They’d be praying like hell for one of these bad boys to come and save them.


6 posted on 12/09/2014 9:08:26 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: bkopto
F-35 ... is scheduled to replace it.

Realistically, that will never happen

7 posted on 12/09/2014 9:08:53 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Air Force generals hate it. Grunts love it.

Yup..


8 posted on 12/09/2014 9:10:03 AM PST by PROCON (Always give 100%...unless you're donating blood.)
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To: bkopto

the A-10 is one big piece of a$$ kicking!

I saw those aircraft on ranges before the war - and saw what they did in Iraq once over there...so did the enemy...this aircraft is not to be pi$$ed off!


9 posted on 12/09/2014 9:10:34 AM PST by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The USAF had better give some love to any airplane that flies since they AGS but a handfull of F-22s, some worn out F-15s and F-16s and early production run F-35s that can’t fly WAS.

The USN on the other hand has quite a few F-18s that still sort of smell new.


10 posted on 12/09/2014 9:10:58 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Adversity does not build character so much as expose it.)
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To: bkopto

The Warthog should not only not be written out, it should be improved and kept in the inventory.

(I’ve flown fighters and trainers, but never had the opportunity to fly the A-10. It is one of two planes I’d like to try out. The other is the Mustang.)

And, of course, as previously stated...should you to be an enemy, never, EVER p*ss off a Warthog pilot.


11 posted on 12/09/2014 9:13:30 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: bkopto
The A-10 fighter jet

Once again the journalistic community displays their excellent grasp of the facts.

The "A" designates it as and " Attack aircraft. If it was a fighter aircraft, it would be designated with an F eg F-15, F-22.

One airplane in the US inventory currently is co-designated an attack-fighter aircraft, the F/A-18.

It may seem trivial but credibility and competence is important in reporting. Ask Rolling Stone.

12 posted on 12/09/2014 9:14:14 AM PST by pfflier
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To: taxcontrol
Give them to the Army and Marines along with the pilots, support and budget.


The Airforce has tried but the Army and Marines don't want the A-10 on their budget

13 posted on 12/09/2014 9:15:06 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: bkopto

Reading accounts of this aircraft and her pilots are amazing.

Coming back in to base with holes riddled throughout, seeing the pilot home safely, leaving behind scores of enemy armor smoldering in a heap of ruin.

Just gotta love the Warthog.


14 posted on 12/09/2014 9:16:22 AM PST by servantboy777
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Beyond that sheer amount of whoop ass this thing can lay down, it literally is a flying tank. The amount of damage an A-10 can take and STILL make it back home is nothing short of amazing.


15 posted on 12/09/2014 9:17:05 AM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: bkopto
This is an old story that goes back to the late 1980's.
Then Gulf War 1 came along and A/F generals opposed to the Warthog shut up. In fact the A-10 became the hot aircraft to fly for aspiring jet jockeys. That's where the action was to be found.
It's a practical aircraft, well designed for the mission its designed for & needs to be part of our weapon system in the future.
16 posted on 12/09/2014 9:19:17 AM PST by BluH2o
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Getting rid of the A-10 would save $4.2 billion over five years, the best value with the least loss of aircraft, Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Welch told the House Armed Services Committee in March.

And how much would we save if we cut the F35 instead? wouldn't a couple fewer 35s save enough money to fully pay for all the A10s?
17 posted on 12/09/2014 9:21:35 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Air Force generals hate it.

That is largely a myth that has repeated on and off by the media for 20+ years.

The truth is most Air Force generals and officers love the aircraft and completely understand its role is Close Air Support (CAS). The Air Force Chief of Staff (a 4 star), Mark Welsh, flew the A-10 and has spoken highly of the aircraft in every Congressional testimony.

Here is the ugly truth (one the American people largely refuse to accept) - the US military has been decimated by massive budget cuts (on top of Sequestration cuts as well) and unless Congress and the American people demand that it stops then the military simply cannot do everything that is asked of it.

The only way for the Air Force to come even close to "paying its bill" for the next 8 years of Sequestration cuts is to cut entire fleets of aircraft. Onesey Twosey cuts do not achieve the "savings" that Congress and Obama have demanded through sequestration.

But most Americans simply don't really care. They have their entitlement checks and EBT - and they don't want those cut.

18 posted on 12/09/2014 9:24:01 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: bkopto

Its actual designation; A10 Thunderbolt is a more accurate description of the way it goes about its mission, like a thunderbolt. Its a perfect aircraft for its intended purpose.


19 posted on 12/09/2014 9:25:24 AM PST by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The A10 has such a slow stall speed that upon landing it looks like it’s just hanging there.

A truly amazing bird built like a tank.

The Air Force would be foolish and irresponsible to mothball those birds.


20 posted on 12/09/2014 9:26:32 AM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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