Police Sweep at Oceanside High Stirs Up Debate Over Student Rights

The Free Press (Midcoast Maine) ^ | 12/11/2014 | Andy O'Brien

[NewHampshireDuo]

Just getting the kids used to the police state.

This has also been covered in the Courier Gazette (Rockland) and the Bangor Daily News. This article is the most complete.

[raybbr]

Parents are voluntarily putting their children into a prison like lifestyle.

[txnativegop]

While some parents and students condemned the incident on online social networking, Thompson said she had not personally heard any concerns from parents. "I think that if anything, they're very supportive that we're being proactive," she said. "We're not invasive and all students have to comply. Usually parents are thankful." RSU 13 School Board Chair Steve Roberts brushed off student civil liberties concerns. Thompson wouldn't hear the complaints even if the parents screamed. She claims non-invasiveness while some cop rifles through a kid's bag. If the child must comply; then the 4th amendment does not apply to them, when was that ruling made? Mr. Roberts just ignored the concerns raised about this? How?

[Veggie Todd]

Principal Renee Thompson said that although there have not been any specific drug problems at the school, she organized the raid by the Rockland Police along with the Knox and Lincoln County Sheriff's Departments in an effort to "send the message...

We don't have any specific info on what is in Ms. Thompson's house and vehicle, but let's send in the cops to see what they find....

[Mears]

Old lady here.

When I grew up we had no rights-—just obeyed the rules.

Very orderly schools in those days.

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[NewHampshireDuo]

I’m sure that some interesting facts will come out about Ms. Thompson. I’m expecting that there will be a bit of an uproar about this but then I could be surprised.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I think a surprise raid on Renee's domicile would be in order, in the name of "fairness."

Renee doesn't have anything against "fairness," does she?

[NewHampshireDuo]

We obeyed the rules too. And when we didn’t we got disciplined by the teacher or a higher level in the school. I don’t remember police being involved in any action during my k-12 years except when some kids broke into the high school over a weekend and did some rather ugly vandalism. That was understandable by all.

[G Larry]

What’s with all of the whining?

Who thinks kids should be able to stash anything in their lockers?

This isn’t about strip searching!

[Cicero]

Actually, while I’m far from happy with public schools in general, I think they have a right to have a zero drug policy, and that the police have a right to search the school for drugs if the town government approves.

Also, if you read the article, the police seem to have taken extreme care to be considerate of the students and not to violate their rights.

I can’t say I’m entirely happy about this kind of thing, but I think there are plenty of other things the ACLU could object to before this.

[ex91B10]

They were doing this when I was in HS in the early 70’s.

[Desron13]

And yet attendance at these public gulags is compulsory. You just gotta love the circular logic from the usual government goons.

[txnativegop]

The other beauty of circular logic is that the circuit is complete and no information can enter.

makes libs feel smart and because new info can’t find its way to them, protects them from reality.

[txnativegop]

Nope, unless it is applied to her.

[Iron Munro]

So they have thrown Demon Tobacco into the mix as the equal of dope, heroin, crack, cocaine and crystal meth.

Is there any wonder that kids can’t make informed value judgement calls with ‘educators’ like this?

[arthurus]

If your kids are more to you than a drag on your social life, more than a fad that has become a drag, more than aliens which you are forced to shelter and feed-

you home school them or put them in private or parochial school. You keep them out of government schools. Public school is child abuse and legally dangerous for children and parents.

[cloudmountain]

Sounds to me like another ATTORNEY-paradise.
THEY will be richer and the rest of the groups will eat dirt.

And then, in another year or so, we'll see a depiction of this on some version of Law and Order, SVU or OTHER equally fake department of the NYPD.

[soupbone1]

I wonder how many teachers were scrambling to find a place to stash there drugs.

[fini]

“Old lady here.

When I grew up we had no rights-—just obeyed the rules.

Very orderly schools in those days.”

Old guy here. Graduated from high school in 1975. We had cigarettes and knives in our pockets and shotguns in our cars. Police did not come into the school. And the shop teacher taught us how to make trigger parts for our 700 Remington rifles.

[who knows what evil?]

In order to pass the test, the dogs simply had to detect nothing. But out of 144 runs, that only happened 21 times, which amounted to an 85-percent failure rate.

Those dogs are borderline worthless.