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To: palmer
“Those numbers are BS. We get 12.7 kWh of electricity per gallon of petroleum”

That figure would be relevant if we got 60% of our electricity from petroleum. It might even be worth mentioning if we got 30% of our electricity from petroleum. You could even be excused for bringing it up if we got 10% of our electricity from petroleum.

However, it is absolutely irrelevant since we only get 1% of our electricity from petroleum.

I think I'll just trust KBB’s numbers instead.

63 posted on 12/16/2014 4:25:08 AM PST by LogicDesigner
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To: LogicDesigner
KBB gets their numbers from the government. It doesn't really matter whether we get 1% of electricity from petroleum or 0.001% What matters is how much energy it takes to create the electricity needed to charge the car. If you insist on using the corrupt EPA units of mpg then you have to use petroleum. Instead if you want to use square-meter-hours of sun per mile, that's fine, but you need to pick units you can back up.

12 kWH for 45 miles means 12,000 divided by 150 square-meter-hours. Divided by 45 and you get a little under 2 square meter hours per mile. (IOW 2 square meters of solar panels for one hour for each mile driven).

If you want to use the power grid mix instead then you must use retail prices because those represent the costs (my electric company and all their suppliers are non-profit). That means $1.68 for those 45 miles in my case in Virginia. With $3 gas that is 80 mpg equivalent (for the Volt).

67 posted on 12/16/2014 5:22:27 AM PST by palmer (Free is when you don't have to pay for nothing. Or do nothing. We want Obamanet.)
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To: LogicDesigner

In the 80 mpg equivalent I did not count taxes which are 36 cents including federal and Virginia taxes.


68 posted on 12/16/2014 5:25:15 AM PST by palmer (Free is when you don't have to pay for nothing. Or do nothing. We want Obamanet.)
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