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To: ansel12
I’m not Monday morning quarterbacking, I am pointing out that the cops let two hostages get killed and at least a third wounded.

That equals failure.

I don't agree with you, and you obviously don't agree with me. It's pretty pointless to continue the discussion.

But I think assuming mistakes were made because somebody died is one of the most problematic things people do when it comes to military or police operations.

Sometimes you can't get the perfect result.

I'm not saying there weren't mistakes made - I am saying I don't think you or I can judge that from the limited information we have available to us. It will be investigated by people who have access to everything.

57 posted on 12/15/2014 4:28:55 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975
But I think assuming mistakes were made because somebody died is one of the most problematic things people do when it comes to military or police operations.

I answered that in post 53.

This looked like about as simple a hostage situation as it gets, yet it resulted in failure with multiple dead.

"It isn’t like this was one of those complicated, well manned, well planned terrorist operations inside of a grounded airliner on the runway, or something complicated, a cafe is not difficult at all to do whatever you want to do in regards to surveillance and taking out the gunman, or assaulting or whatever you want to do.
If the SAS was handling this and had found the conditions so overwhelming that they couldn’t save all of the hostages, then we would all be scratching our heads."

58 posted on 12/15/2014 4:33:21 PM PST by ansel12
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