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To: JOAT

I have the same apprehensions.

Lib/Leftist blue states will send Lib/Leftist reps and lawyers will be lined up to challenge every aspect of the results.

Per other threads/articles, the Convention is called to address only pre-specified amendments. Has anyone outside the clique seen any of those proposed amendments?

The Convention and the proposed amendments are approved by state legislators. Notice the absence involvement by non-legislative personnel -- i.e., citizens not in elective legislative positions.

We cannot trust the ones we elect, so why are we going to entrust them with an Article V Convention?

Where IS the list of proposed amendments they supposedly will be restricted to considering?

The few suggested amendments I have seen or heard about are too filled with lawyer legalese to be understood. They don't seem to address the basic problems.


19 posted on 12/17/2014 9:15:54 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

You don’t appear to support republican government. What form of government do you prefer?


24 posted on 12/17/2014 9:32:46 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: TomGuy

Read the suggestions in the article and read Mark Levin’s “The Liberty Amendments.” Very well explained and easy to understand. And has he has said, they are ONLY suggestions.

Do you trust your state elected officials more than those elected to the federal Congress? That is the measure of citizen involvement.

One other thing - the process does not need the support or participation of “leftist” states; it only needs 38 states to call for the convention. Further, the amendments would likely be spelled out beforehand so delegates would be aware of what they were sent by their state legislatures to consider.


48 posted on 12/17/2014 2:09:56 PM PST by SleeperCatcher
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To: TomGuy

Good news! Many of your apprehensions are based on misinformation.

The Convention of States effort being advanced by the Citizens for Self-Governance does not restrict debate to specific amendments, but rather to specific subject matter: To propose amendments that will reduce the size and power of the federal government, apply fiscal restraints, and impose term limits on all federal officials.

The nature and wording of the specific amendments will be up to the delegates. That’s why they’re having a convention in the first place... to introduce, debate and propose a slate of amendments to the 50 state legislatures for ratification, all within the structures of the subject matter defined above.

There are other Article V efforts that are much more narrow and restrictive. Although I believe that ANY attempt to reign in the federal government is a good thing, I support the above-referenced CSG COS Project.

Delegates to this COS Will be among the most constitutionally conservative advocates of liberty alive, and may be enlisted from the ranks of local elected officials or non-elected citizens. The only persons ineligible by statute are federal officials.

Again, there are other Article V efforts out there, so it’s best to do the legwork, make the necessary distinctions and relieve your apprehensions.


87 posted on 12/19/2014 8:08:21 PM PST by Strawberry AZ (Artcile V... A Solution as Big as the Problem - http://www.conventionofstates.com/problem)
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