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1 posted on 12/17/2014 5:23:46 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Ken H

The “war on drugs” is a scourge on our society, and a vehicle to shred the Constitutional rights of us all. The “war on terror” is as well.


2 posted on 12/17/2014 5:27:13 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Ken H

Too bad the peeps can make up their own laws, especially reasonable ones while the cops, prosecutors and gov’t employees (Cough****TOTUS*****cough) can.


3 posted on 12/17/2014 5:29:05 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Ken H

Too bad the peeps can’t make up their own laws, especially reasonable ones while the cops, prosecutors and gov’t employees (Cough****TOTUS*****cough) can.


4 posted on 12/17/2014 5:29:17 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Ken H
So, if I eat a sandwich from a plastic baggie and accidentally tear it I'm under suspicion of drug use in Kansas?

Have those judges never put food in a plastic baggie? Or are they all druggies?

5 posted on 12/17/2014 5:32:31 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Ken H

Ok I am not comfortable with convicted burglar Howard having an AK-47. BUT, being a felon in one state and not in another seems odd. Unfair. AND, the baggie thing sounds a little strange. I have a baggie in my cup holder that is full of coins. I use baggies for all sorts of things and in all sorts of places. They are cheap and convenient. I have several in my purse.

Now I do not know exactly what the cop is talking about. With the slit or twist or whatever it was perhaps that is more suspect. I really do not know. But it is WEAK.


6 posted on 12/17/2014 5:34:29 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Ken H

I’m still trying to figure out what a tape wrapped
baseball has to do with it?


8 posted on 12/17/2014 5:36:07 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Define “baggie.” Do they mean zip locks or those plastic bags we can no longer get at store in California after the enviros lobbied for them then against them? Dang near everything in my ALICE was in a zip lock; kept it dry and clean and would keep the ALICE floating were I to go in the drink.

I remember years ago a cop telling me the Constitution was a 200 year old piece of paper that got in the way of him doing his job.


11 posted on 12/17/2014 5:40:25 PM PST by rey
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To: Ken H

Damn these cops and judges. This guy was cornered and trapped into a conviction based on spurious charges. Meanwhile we have a president, government “leaders”, and illegals breaking laws left and right while they get a free pass. It’s anarchy, and good reason for citizens to say heck with the laws ourselves. Losing respect for “lawgivers”.


12 posted on 12/17/2014 5:48:15 PM PST by roadcat
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I guess I’d better stay out of Kansas, I bet I have ten torn little baggies in my truck, I store all kinds of stuff in them, and often have to tear them to get the contents out.....

And horrors, I often do carry drugs in them... my little emergency ration of naproxen, antihistamine, loperamide, etc.


15 posted on 12/17/2014 5:53:21 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Ken H

If a cop wants to pull you over, he will say you were weaving.

If he wants to search your car/truck, he will see “something suspicious” through the window and use that as an excuse for the search.

Best to keep the interior of your vehicle absolutely spotless, but when they bring in Fido, he will alert when the cop wants him to, so it may not help much.

Avoiding interactions with the law is always the right decision.


19 posted on 12/17/2014 6:08:26 PM PST by wrench
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Prairie Village KS cops are very overbearing


20 posted on 12/17/2014 6:12:17 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Ken H

I’d guess that we’re near the point that if the gutless legislators won’t impeach and remove Nazi judges that it’s the responsibility of citizens to organize roving bands of vigilantes to drag fascist judges into the streets and hang them from lampposts.


26 posted on 12/17/2014 6:23:51 PM PST by sergeantdave
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As an old wizened Missouri lawyer told me once, “There is no law West of the Kaw......”


27 posted on 12/17/2014 6:26:10 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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"Like one-hitter boxes or tape-wrapped baseballs, people don't often carry baggies with torn corners, and Howard hasn't cited a common, legal use for baggie corners," Judge Steve Leben wrote for the court. "In the absence of another purpose, the torn corner in this case indicates that the baggie had been used to store illegal drugs, even though the police didn't smell marijuana or observe that Howard or his passenger appeared to be under the influence of drugs."


30 posted on 12/17/2014 6:47:04 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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“...Prairie Village Police Officer Chad Loughman pulled Howard over.”

So all this started with moving violation or broken light in addition to a Missouri plate. I suspect it has less to do with the war on drugs and more to do with the large number of home burglaries in Prairie Village by occupants of cars with Missouri plates. They have a bit of a reputation for stopping cars and trucks with Missouri Plates.


32 posted on 12/17/2014 6:51:00 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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Ok, lets see if I have this. One state can let you off, but another state where you were never on trial can secretly convict you without a trial or charges?

Is this part of “hope and change”? Or the liberal version of “states rights”?


33 posted on 12/17/2014 6:51:45 PM PST by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun free zones?)
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To: Ken H

And since those who transport these plastic bags usually use an automobile to do it, the act of being in an automobile is also suspicious...


39 posted on 12/18/2014 3:35:40 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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