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The IRS Must Be Put Down Like a Rabid Dog
The Blaze ^ | 12-17-2014 | John Linder

Posted on 12/20/2014 3:12:44 PM PST by smoothsailing

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The IRS Must Be Put Down Like a Rabid Dog

John Linder

John Linder served in Congress for 18 years from Georgia.
He and his wife, Lynne, have retired to a farm in Northeast Mississippi.

Since it was first disclosed that the IRS abused the taxpayers and the law, the Democrat refrain has been, “…it is clear that there was no White House involvement…” Well, now it is clear that there was White House involvement, but it is against the law to disclose it.

A watchdog group, Cause of Action, filed a Freedom of Information Act request for email between the IRS and the White House. They have been informed by the Treasury Department that 2,509 such emails exist, but: “These pages consist of return information protected by 26 U.S.C. § 6103 and may not be disclosed absent an express statutory exception. Because no such exception exists here, we are withholding those.”

So, it is a felony to disclose the information that the IRS disclosed to the White House unless Congress passes a statutory exemption that will not become law unless this president, who broke the law, agrees to sign the statute so that we can see how he broke the law. Fat chance!

That, dear reader, is why the much talked about tax reform in the new Congress will fail. Any tax reform that leaves a corrupt system in place will be abused again by future administrations as unscrupulous as the Obama administration.

While political abuse of the taxpayer is a felony, economic abuse of the taxpayer is statutory. Thank the Congress for that.

The Mercatus Center at George Mason University puts the economic costs of the current tax code at $500 billion to $1 trillion each year. An earlier study concluded that it costs a typical small business $724 to collect, comply, and remit $100. That is not just inefficient… That is stupid.

Our tax code has created an underground economy of $2 trillion to $3 trillion and keeps in excess of $20 trillion in offshore financial centers. This money wants to be in our economy—and should be in our economy—but is not because of the tax costs of repatriation.

It takes thousands of companies to get a loaf of bread to your table, starting with getting oil out of the ground to make fuel for trucks, to getting ore out of the ground to make steel for tractors. Those companies have business expenses and tax expenses. The only mechanism they have to recoup costs is price. You pay those costs when you buy the bread.

A Harvard study concluded that the tax component in the price system is 22 percent. Competing in a global economy with a 22 percent tax component in our price system makes us less competitive and drives jobs offshore.

These four problems—Offshore money, costs of compliance, underground economy and embedded costs—all remain in place when we nibble around the edges of the current code. All go away if we abolish the code and tax consumption rather than income.

The FairTax solves all of the above. It is a universal sales tax levied at the checkout counter on the purchase of new goods and services for personal use. There is no tax on used goods, since nothing should be taxed more than once.

Under the FairTax there is no tax on business activity. There is no tax on personal income, corporate income, dividends or capital gains. No gift tax or estate tax. All are repealed and the IRS is abolished.

Currently an average income earner gives the federal government 23 cents of every dollar they earn—15 percent income tax and 8 percent payroll tax. Under the FairTax they would give the government 23 percent of every dollar they spend. Money saved is not taxed.

By eliminating the IRS, and thus compliance costs, we will share a five- to ten-trillion-dollar tax cut. Prices will decline because the embedded costs are gone. Take-home pay will increase since there would be no deductions from the paycheck. These two events, a reduction in prices and increase in take-home pay, will provide a 22 percent increase in purchasing power for everyone who spends all that they earn.

We will be untouchable in a global economy because we will export products with no tax component in our pricing system.

To effectively untax necessities, a cash distribution is made to every household based on the size of the household. The prebate for a family of four would be sufficient to allow that family to spend $31,000 with no tax consequences.

Beyond that, we are all voluntary spenders and we will all be voluntary taxpayers. We will pay taxes when we choose, as much as we choose, by how we choose to spend.

Finally, the IRS will be put down like a rabid dog. No agency of government should have the power to abuse our personal information for political gain, which the IRS has proven its willing to do.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fairtax; irs
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To: Dick Bachert

We are closer than ever imo wrt obtaining critical mass.

It’s totally time to start the nrst threads again :)

I was there too with taxman - who was there in the stead of freeper chief negotiator iirc....


21 posted on 12/20/2014 4:05:31 PM PST by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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To: smoothsailing
Abolish the 16th Amendment and then go to a”Fair Tax” without the “Prebate”

“The FairTax solves all of the above. It is a universal sales tax levied at the checkout counter on the purchase of new goods and services for personal use. There is no tax on used goods, since nothing should be taxed more than once.

Under the FairTax there is no tax on business activity. There is no tax on personal income, corporate income, dividends or capital gains. No gift tax or estate tax. All are repealed and the IRS is abolished.

The IRS is abolished, how sweet it is...

22 posted on 12/20/2014 4:07:55 PM PST by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: EXCH54FE

“The IRS is abolished, how sweet it is... “......

It takes people with the courage to “get ‘er done”. Unfortunately such people are in extremely short supply these days. The rino’s don’t have the backbone and the demodummies wouldn’t know where to begin. No, unfortunately, we are stuck with the IRS for a while longer.


23 posted on 12/20/2014 4:12:27 PM PST by DaveA37 (bLACK)
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To: kitchen

== Why a proponent of the fair tax would include this fact is beyond me. ==

Because it points out the huge amounts of money spent on nonproductive endeavors and gives nrst proponents to point out the far lower costs of the nrst.


24 posted on 12/20/2014 4:13:45 PM PST by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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To: smoothsailing

The IRS is the CHUPACABRA of Government Agencies, and needs to be brought to an end for the good of all Americans.


25 posted on 12/20/2014 4:27:18 PM PST by lee martell
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To: SunkenCiv; smoothsailing
There is no tax on personal income, corporate income, dividends or capital gains. No gift tax or estate tax. All are repealed and the IRS is abolished.

The only way this will work is an amendment to the constitution forbidding congress from imposing any other taxes. The amendment must also place a limit as to how high the tax may be.

Passing a law repealing all of these other taxes is pointless unless we forbid congress from imposing these taxes again.

We all know that congress loves to spend money and cannot resist the temptation to impose taxes on those from who they wish to extort campaign contributions or to punish.

The amendment should also limit the congress ability to borrow money. I believe our 130 trillion dollar national debit demonstrates that congress cannot be trusted in the matter of borrowing money to finance government operations.

26 posted on 12/20/2014 4:37:36 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Principled; All

ABOLISH THE IRS.

REPEAL THE 16th AMENDMENT.

There has never been a better time to take out the IRS.

THE FAIR TAX WOULD BE THE BIGGEST TRANSFER OF POWER FROM DC BACK TO THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY’S HISTORY.


27 posted on 12/20/2014 4:38:56 PM PST by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: smoothsailing

These fascist IRS pigs live in your neighborhoods. They are leftists who wear mascara, carry a purse and pee in their pants. Look them up.


28 posted on 12/20/2014 5:10:14 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: smoothsailing
The FairTax solves all of the above.

He bitches about an underground economy and then suggests a massive sales tax? Really? He whines about government involvement in business and expects them not to track every transaction to get their cut? Really?? If you think the IRS is intrusive now, you ain't seen nothin' if we get the FareTax. The problem is spending.

Unless and until we can get the entitlement state down to the point that a sales tax (including state and local) would be 10% or less, expect an underground economy bigger than the legal one with an enforcement police state dwarfing what we have now... OOPS! The State of California charges damned near that already, along with one of the highest income taxes in America, and a property tax, and outrageous fees, and Federal taxes. If these morons get their way, expect combined sales taxes to approach 50% of the sale price, but then the liars pushing this idea will call it 33%.

29 posted on 12/20/2014 5:55:53 PM PST by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: DaveA37
“The rino’s don’t have the backbone and the demodummies wouldn’t know where to begin”

That is why I'm in favor of Term Limits.

One Term in office, Two Terms in Jail!!!

:-)

30 posted on 12/20/2014 6:01:43 PM PST by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Something like 80 pct of retail transactions take place in appx 20 pct of sellers.

Also, the universe of retail sellers is something like 90 pct less than the universe of income tax filers.

To me that means enforcement will be less intrusive if individuals are not filing anymore.


31 posted on 12/20/2014 6:05:09 PM PST by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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To: smoothsailing; All
Finally, the IRS will be put down like a rabid dog. No agency of government should have the power to abuse our personal information for political gain, which the IRS has proven its willing to do.

Good closing argument John, but the FR thread is better and funnier BUMP!

32 posted on 12/20/2014 6:06:10 PM PST by PGalt
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To: smoothsailing
Rush Limbaugh makes the same point about high sales in operation.
33 posted on 12/20/2014 6:06:43 PM PST by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: Principled
Something like 80 pct of retail transactions take place in appx 20 pct of sellers.

Once there is a black market you can reverse those numbers.

34 posted on 12/20/2014 6:07:21 PM PST by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: dfwgator

you gave them an interest-free loan. Suckers!

LOL


35 posted on 12/20/2014 6:21:02 PM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: Carry_Okie

Black market mean gov gets less :)


36 posted on 12/20/2014 6:21:43 PM PST by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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To: smoothsailing
  Putting down a rabid dog is a very sad event even when the dog is about to kill you. The IRS is different. No one likes the IRS. Removing the IRS from the lives of every American is something to be celebrated with bonfires on the beach and lots of fireworks. It's one step closer to a free country. The next step is the EPA, then there's the Dept. of Education, the Dept. of Energy, ...
37 posted on 12/20/2014 6:34:57 PM PST by Maurice Tift (Never wear anything that panics the cat. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Principled
Black market mean gov gets less :)

Oh how Principled... not.

From the law-abiding they'll take more. A sales tax won't work without a MAJOR reduction in spending at all levels.

38 posted on 12/20/2014 7:01:32 PM PST by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: Carry_Okie

No tax will work without a major reduction in spending will it Carrie?

Indeed the black market you fear so deeply already exists, doesn’t it?

So why do you oppose eliminating the income tax? Do you benefit from it Carrie?

FOAD


39 posted on 12/20/2014 7:30:58 PM PST by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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To: Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; Voter#537; Dick Bachert; ..

Thanks for the ping, Principled!

OKEYDOKEY, FairTaxers, here is your chance to beat the FairTax drum!

Go to http://www.fairtax.org to find out how you can help us get this done!


40 posted on 12/20/2014 8:31:31 PM PST by Taxman
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