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NY Police Union Head Blames Mayor, Protesters For Officers' Deaths
CBS News via You Tube ^ | 12/20/2104 | Staff

Posted on 12/21/2014 12:06:48 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

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To: FreeReign
Garner did not die from asphyxiation. To say that he did is false information.

That's what the medical examiner said - Link

41 posted on 12/21/2014 12:58:50 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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The killer acting alone is responsible for the assassinations. But, the race baiters (political and MSM) that fomented the actions must be sharply condemned.


42 posted on 12/21/2014 1:00:55 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Reddy

How so?

Leo in post #2 said that all of the police should file a classd action suit and then brought in that it brought in incitement to commit murder.

Neither the cop involved with Garner nor de Blasio should be held accountable for inciting anything.

Do you now understand?


43 posted on 12/21/2014 1:02:02 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: livius

Thank you livius. People who couldn’t get much mileage out of the Michael Unarmed Teen Brown case here at a conservative site, are latching on to the Garner case, again, ignoring the facts, in order to try to do what they couldn’t with the Brown case.


44 posted on 12/21/2014 1:07:41 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Neither of whom are the best examples of conservative appeals to authority.


45 posted on 12/21/2014 1:08:22 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The bottom line is if Garner didn’t resist arrest he’d still be alive today.


46 posted on 12/21/2014 1:10:39 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Yes, holding himself to a higher standard really worked well for George W. The media cut him all kinds of slack for doing so/s What the left, and some covert operators, really want, is for the right to tie their own hands while the left uses brass knuckles.


47 posted on 12/21/2014 1:10:55 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: DoodleDawg

Yes, one can question without rooting, and I know of no one who has rooted for this - and it would be unacceptable and unconscionable if someone did root for this.

Yet it seems that some here have only an either/or mentality: You either never question or if you do then you hate cops.

This strategy doesn’t destroy you, my and others’ right to question or our First Amendment rights, but it is Ad Hominem that is meant to effectively gut questioning and thus do a round about against our First Amendment rights.

That is all from me today. Have to go.

Thanks for the input!


48 posted on 12/21/2014 1:11:39 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: mrsmel

Baseless conflating of one that leans heavily in favor of the cop and the Garner case which doesn’t seem to.


49 posted on 12/21/2014 1:13:57 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

A jury, which I daresay was in more possession of the facts than either of us, disagreed with you.


50 posted on 12/21/2014 1:17:13 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: DoodleDawg
Garner did not die from asphyxiation. To say that he did is false information.

That's what the medical examiner said - Link

You are reading a cBS headline and not the medical examiners complete comment.

51 posted on 12/21/2014 1:21:39 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
You are reading a cBS headline and not the medical examiners complete comment.

So what part of the comment - His death was caused by the “compression of his neck (chokehold), compression of his chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police” and asthma, heart disease and obesity were contributing factors, Bolcer said - am I missing?

52 posted on 12/21/2014 1:28:31 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

American cops kill Americans at a rate 40x that at which German cops kill Germans.

Obviously there are differences in how these stats were compiled and big differences between American and German society.

But it does seem to me that big a difference implies pretty strongly that too many Americans are killed by cops. Without prejudging any of the individual incidents.


53 posted on 12/21/2014 1:41:00 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
But it does seem to me that big a difference implies pretty strongly that too many Americans are killed by cops.

Apparently according to Giuliani and the NYPD union even mentioning that is declaring war on cops. Go figure.

54 posted on 12/21/2014 1:43:38 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

if Sharpton and others incited things, then the cop who did the chokehold and others with him would also be aid to have incited things.

I’m sorry but jeez this is stupid. Inciting is an act by one COMITTED to induce an end involving OTHERS. By your idiotic definition ANYTHING anyone does anywhere anytime is incitement.


55 posted on 12/21/2014 1:46:02 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Americans cops kill a LOT fewer people, and a LOT fewer black people, than they used to.

Used to have some stats on this, but now I can’t find them. If I remember right, 50 years ago they killed something along the lines of 1200 people a year, most of them black.

We’re presently down around 400/year. Given the huge increase in population over this period, it means the rate has gone WAY down.


56 posted on 12/21/2014 1:46:23 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

I do not want to get into any kind of conversation with you or anyone you are talking to who finds yo sensible or logical, esp bringing this up on such a day on such a thread.

And for all- Daniel greenfield a most sensible columnist stated more that what lynch said Not only the same thing but more

I do want to state as someone who actually knows German culture and traffic laws, lifestyle, etc, that, whatever incited statistics you are looking at notwithstanding,

one -The Germans are a certain people. The country is not a melting pot. They will wait to cross the street for example until the light says ‘walk’ or ‘gehe’ whether there are cars coming or not. Whether it’s eleven at night or not whether there is a soul around or not

Two. The Germans just go by the rules. They go to driving school and learn to drive I mean for a year. In all kinds of conditions. It’s why they are allowed to drive at speeds we only dream of. I see more accidents in one week here where I live that I saw in three years in Germany no exaggeration at all

Three Germans don’t screw around with the prolixity

Duh

For instance, not many drive drunk there. One of fence is loss of license for a very long time with a mandatory re education of driving rules at a great out of pocket cost

So they don’t do it

You want to compare other countries to us and our police on an occasion like this

Enough


57 posted on 12/21/2014 1:58:51 PM PST by stanne
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To: LeoWindhorse

Also get cuomo by the collar and demand he begin a process to remove deblowjob from office. He needs to go


58 posted on 12/21/2014 2:07:24 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Empty head empty suit = arrogant little bastard)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

He’s raysust!/s


59 posted on 12/21/2014 2:07:30 PM PST by Dallas59
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

oh yay... another anti-cop thread to add to the flood here lately.

The primary purpose for having any government to begin with is to protect our life, liberty and property. The government can’t do that if they are terrified of even looking cross-eyed at a bad guy for fear of the thug having a rotten-health induced heart attack. Your Sharpton propaganda here is pure garbage.


60 posted on 12/21/2014 4:33:11 PM PST by Tamzee (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~~~ Ronald Reagan)
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