Posted on 12/25/2014 8:54:25 AM PST by NKP_Vet
Liberals everywhere were outraged this week after Rush Limbaugh said a black man playing James Bond would be “ridiculous.” The comments were made on Tuesday in regard to leaked Sony emails that revealed that CEO Amy Paschal wanted the black actor Idris Elba to play James Bond. Rush, however, wasn’t having any of it. “James Bond is a total concept put together by Ian Fleming. He was white and Scottish. Period. That is who James Bond is, was,” the conservative radio show host said. “But now [they are] suggesting that the next James Bond should be Idris Elba, a black Briton, rather than a white from Scotland.” “That’s not who James Bond is and I know it’s racist to probably point this out,” he added. Liberals everywhere are outraged by these “racist” remarks, but what do you think about it? Sound off in the comments below!
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Okay. You decide to level an ad hominem attack instead of argue the point, and you do that because you cannot argue the point.
The point is, there is no difference and you keep moving your goalposts.
James Bond is fictional, so the character can be played by anyone.
Scarlett OHara is fictional, she can be played by anyone.
Then you resort to: your opponents have no brains and think with their glands.
That pretty much wraps up your argument. You must have gone to the Khrushchev School of Shoe banging.
“But what about Amos and Andy”
Original Amos and Andy were radio characters, you couldn’t see them. When it hit TV they were played by black actors.
James Bond was a WHITE Scotsman. Not a black man.
James Bond was BASED on Ian Fleming, who was WHITE. End of story.
So, was James Bond a fictional white guy or a fictional guy whose race was unknown? That is relevant. If he was a fictional white guy, then it is stupid to change that for PC purposes. Calling that racism is also ape-stupid. We have dumbed down our definition of racism so much that it now includes things that aren’t even bad.
“While GWTW is fictional, there were no black plantation owners to speak of,”
Back at ya. . .during the time James Bond was created “there were no [black Scottish secret agents] to speak of.
Want a black MI-5/6/8 agent, fine, just don’t call him (her or it) “James Bond.”
“Back at ya. . .during the time James Bond was created “there were no [black Scottish secret agents] to speak of.
Want a black MI-5/6/8 agent, fine, just don’t call him (her or it) “James Bond.””
Aren’t the new Bond movies set in the present time.
It’s not that big a deal that the character and franchise are being modernized.
“Back at ya. . .during the time James Bond was created “there were no [black Scottish secret agents] to speak of.
Want a black MI-5/6/8 agent, fine, just don’t call him (her or it) “James Bond.” “
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But do all the James Bond films take place “during the time James Bond was created”?
The right answer is no. As I stated earlier, the Bond film franchise has now transcended the original Fleming novels. Bond no longer needs to be a Scottish white male. Bond can now believably be virtually any demographic Hollywood wants him (or her!) to be, much like, say, the commanding officer in any Star Trek movie or series. No difference.
I can be so naughty sometimes!
Both fake in their own way. Don't worry about it; there are important things to be concerned with in this life.
Sorry, but you are dead wrong on this one. The character has been around since the 1950s with the same backstory. There is nothing there that remotely suggests he isn’t anything other than white. Rush should form a syndicate with other Conservatives and buy out Sony when it’s value crashes and do precisely what you suggest with well known Black films just to prove his point.
Right set of movies, wrong character,
I would like to see the writers pull that one off without completely changing the story.
Depends who owns the Bond franchise I would imagine.
Hey, it's a business, not an art. If the present-day producers think a black James Bond will bring a bigger boxoffice and video sales, it's their money at risk. None of mine will go to cover their investment, you can be sure of that.
Aside from new writers taking literary license to the extreme in extrapolating how a present-day James Bond would look and act after running out of original material ages ago, there's an aspect to this whole phenomenon which really is bothersome, and should be also to FReepers of any religious persuasion.
Ian Fleming, James Bond's creator, had been rumored for a while to be homosexual. How this got started is anyone's guess. It could have been petty jealousy, or perhaps a sincere dislike for the Scottish aristocrat who did, during WWII, serve His Majesty in Naval Intelligence. Whatever the source, the charges turned out to be total balderdash, as the British would say.
Fleming, just as he made his character James Bond into from the very first novel, was a notorious womanizer. He cheated on his wife, had numerous affairs with married women and reportedly engaged in various sadomasochistic acts with his lovers. His close friends were invariably men, as he thought of women as "pets" with only one function in life.
He led a very active but rather short life, living only until the age of 56. Fleming and his alter ego, Bond, were certainly no role models for men coming of age in the '60s, unless one considers a person like Hugh Hefner to be a suitable role model for male morality.
OK, the early bond films were exciting, well-scripted with magnificent scenery, there's no question about that. But hasn't this horse already run too many races, and isn't it time to put him out to pasture?
Maybe this next Bond adventure will be his last, regardless of who gets selected for the lead role.
We all thank you for your contribution. Shawn Connery
Rush-haters live for moments like this as proven by some of the comments above. And who cares if it’s a “fictional” versus “real” character? If they’re being played in an entertainment venue, it doesn’t make a whit of difference except to the nit-pickers with some imaginary point to prove.
If they want a black super secret agent, then spend the capital to create one, and nurture it over decades and multiple stories until it becomes culturally iconic in its own right.
But don't steal the work of others for your own profit, agenda, and self-aggrandizement, and then demand that the rest of us must accept it or else we're racists.
-PJ
Eminem seems to have pulled one off himself.
All the cr@p going down in the Republic and it takes a nonsense thread like this to top 300 posts, sad days ahead I fear.
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