Posted on 12/27/2014 7:44:11 PM PST by kristinn
Well, I know that the region in general has a real problem with piracy and that includes even some large merchant vessels being assaulted so I presume they operate in the Java Sea also.
But since you mention it now I have myself another littlle research project to do.
A few days ago coincidentally I was reading some about the Battle of the Java Sea and it was commented on about the stripping of gear from the Houston and the Perth.
Not pirates as in yo ho ho Jolly Roger, but accident site plunderers.
There might be a small window of time to go in (maybe posing as fishing vessels which they might be already), grab any floating plunder, then exit. But with a huge salvage/rescue effort descending on the site, not for very long.
You know, honestly you raise a good point about there being too much heat right now. The thieves would be too obvious I reckon but I try to never underestimate the level of human larceny.
Thinking of what might float after a break-up. Airtight luggage maybe.
But the governments there are pretty stern. This sounds like a good way to get yourself caned if not more sanctions. (Chiefly Singapore, but others will, under certain circumstances.)
The Houston and Perth (has its wreck ever been found?) are in the Sunda Strait and if they have been stripped I would dare say it was by divers looking for souvenirs and the like rather than pirates. I had a look and you are right there are pirates in the Malacca Strait but I would guess a fair few hundred miles north of where this plane has gone down.
Well yes, the odds of crashing are small unless you are in a crash.
When an aircraft has an accident it is generally bad. But that is balanced out by almost never having an accident. A far greater proportion of aircraft live out their service never having seen a mishap than cars or trucks do.
The main reason I’ve been thinking lightning was the cause is because of the sudden loss of communication and no distress call. Something knocked their comm out and lightning is just one possibility to consider. Was the first one that came to mind.
Lightning probably strikes planes a lot more than most of us are aware of. The fact planes aren’t dropping out of the skies left and right says a lot about how well the built in protections work.
I’ve heard that, too, but have been lucky enough not to find myself in the position to put it to the test. :-)
I have a healthy respect for lightning but at the same time, I’m fascinated by it. If storms are moving in, I’m outside to watch until it’s striking a mile or so away unless rain runs me inside first. Hubby hates it because he’s been struck 3 times and he just knows lightning is going to take me out. LOL!
The shielding skin of most aircraft greatly reduces the possibility that lightning current will carry to anything that is inside the skin. Maybe the physical thunder concussion of a monster strike could knock something out.
I didn’t think about the simulators. That would be something they’d use for the training. Still gotta be a shock to have it happen. Whew!
Wonder how they simulate the THUNDER.
A site called EagleSpeak. US has an account of fuel piracy wherein they seize small tankers and lighters and syphon off the cargo to other vessels. The included maps show hits on tankers and others mostly south and east of Singapore. Looks like the authorities have mostly crushed the attacks in the Malacca Straits in the past decade.
When I cogitate on it I reckon the thieves may feel to exposed out in the open sea and further from their bases.
List of passengers aboard AirAsia QZ8501
AirAsia flight QZ8501 from Juanda International Airport, Surabaya, to Singapore lost contact with air traffic control on Sunday morning. Based on official data, the Airbus 320 flight had 162 people on board, comprising 138 adult passengers, 16 children and one baby and seven crew members. Below is the list of names of passengers aboard QZ8501, the information comes from the list on display at the AirAsia Crisis Center post at Juanda airport:
1. Viona Florensia Abraham.
2. Siau Alain Octavianus
3. Sri Ratri Andriani
4. Sri Vincencia Andrijany
5. Sharon Michelle Ang
6. Steven Michael Ng
7. Ong Anelina
8. Lindawati Anggara
9. Monica Anggraini
10. Linda Anggreni
11. Santiago Jasmine Rose Ann
12. Jayden Cruz Ardhi
13. Reggy Ardhi
14. Yuni Astutik
15. Thirza Aurelia
16. Djarot Biantoro
17. Kevin Biantoro
18. Gani Chandra
19. Chi Man Choi
20. Zoe Man Suen Choi
21. Marianne Claudia Ardhi
22. Michelle Clemency Ardhi
23. The Darmaji
24. Inda Djani
25. Kaylee C. Djomi
26. Martinus Djomi
27. Angeline Esther Emmanuel
28. Ernawati
29. Musaba Evientri Wahab
30. Edward Febriantus
31. Joe Jeng Fei
32. Andrian Fernando
33. Susilo Gani
34. Justin Giovanni
35. Nico Giovanni
36. Feilensia Sularmo Go
37. David Gunawan
38. Jie Charly Gunawan
39. Jie Stephanie Gunawan
40. Jie Steven Gunawan
41. Jie Stevie Gunawan
42. Kayla Audrey Gunawan
43. Kenneth Mathew Gunawan
44. Hendra Gunawan Syawal
45. Hindarto Halim
46. Hayati Luftiah Hamid
47. Finna Handayani
48. Rony Handoyo
49. Sukiatma Haripin
50. Prawira Harja Subagio
51. David Hartono
52. Caroline Harwon Lioe
53. Juliana Ho
54. Christanto Leoma Hutama
55. Jo Indri
56. Monita Wahyuni Jauw
57. Jessica
58. Ang Mie Jong
59. Shiane Josal
60. Kosuma Chandra Kho
61. Vera Chandra Kho
62. Sesha Aldi Krisputra
63. Felicia Sabrina Krisputri
64. Kristiyono
65. Nelson Kusuma
66. Wirantono Kusumo
67. Kyung Hwa Lee
68. Indahju Liangsih
69. Fransisca Lanny Winat Liem
70. Ekawati Ligo
71. Yan Koen Lim
72. Susandhini Limam
73. Juanita Limantara
74. Grayson Herbert Linaksita
75. Kathleen Fulvia Linaksita
76. Tony Linaksita
77. Sri Linggarwati
78. Megawati
79. Merry
80. Abdullah Muttaqin
81. Andrian Noventus
82. Donna Indah Nurwatie
83. Lanny Octavani
84. Jimmy Sentosa Winata Oei
85. Denny Octavianus
86. Sherlly Ong
87. Soamik Saeran Pai
88. Seongbeom Park
89. Gusti Ayu Putriyan Permata
90. Andri Wijaya Poo
91. Christien Aulia Pornomo
92. Feyny Yufina Pornomo
93. Ruth Natalia M Puspitasari
94. Gusti Ayu Madi Keish Putri
95. Mulyahadikusuma Ranudiwjojo
96. Ria Ratna Sari
97. Siri Romlah
98. Fandi Santoso
99. Karina Santoso
100. Nikolas Theo Santoso
101. Lia Sari
102. Yonathan Sebastian
103. Samuel Joyo Sentoso
104. Mawin Sholeh
105. Soetikno Sia
106. Gusti Made Bobi Sidartha
107. Chung Hei Sii
108. Elbert Soesilo
109. Aris Soetanto
110. Lina Soetanto
111. Cindy Clarissa Soetjipto
112. Kevin Alexander Soetjipto
113. Rudy Soetjipto
114. Yenni Soewono
115. Budi Su
116. Kartika Dewi Sukianto
117. Sulastri
118. Hanny Suryaatmaja
119. Djoko Suseno
120. Naura Kanita Rosada Suseno
121. Susiyah
122. Hermanto Tanus
123. The Meiji Thejakusuma
124. Hendra Theodorus
125. Raynaldi Theodorus
126. Winoya Theodorus
127. Suriani Usin
128. Soesilo Utomo
129. Eny Wahyuni
130. Oktaria Wen
131. Bhima Aly Wicaksana
132. Andreas Widjaja
133. Djoko Satryo Tanoe Widjaja
134. Eko Widjaja
135. Florentina Maria Widodo
136. Nanang Priyo Widodo
137. Anna Widyawati
138. Alfred Widjaya
139. Bob Hartanto Wijaya
140. Marilyn Wijaya
141. William Wijaya
142. Indar Prasetyo Wijaya Kwee
143. Boby Hartanto Winata
144. Ingrid Jessica Winata
145. Natalina Wuntarjo
146. Indri Yani
147. Jou Yongki
148. Elisabeth Youvita
149. Brian Youvito
150. Jou Christine Yuanita
151. Albertus Eka Surya Yulianto
152. Indra Yulianto
153. Stephanie Yulianto
154. Indah Yuni
The sort of mix of Malay, Chinese, Christian and Muslim names one would expect to see on a flight from Indonesia to Singapore during Christmas holiday week.
Good point on thunder’s concussion. That up-close-and-personal, it could be possible I’d think. It would really rattle everything.
Hmmmmm. Maybe the same way an earthquake would be simulated. Just make the simulator shake hard and have thunder audio over the speakers?
Your guess is as good as mine. :-) I’ve never been inside a simulator.
Www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-13/outrage-as-warship-grave-stripped
Story is about Perth being stripped by salvage barges. Looks like most of the superstructure and the gunhouses are gone.
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