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Commodity Prices Are Cliff-Diving Due To The Fracturing Monetary Supernova—The Case Of Iron Ore
davidstockmanscontracorner.com ^ | 12-30-2014 | David Stockman

Posted on 12/31/2014 6:13:00 AM PST by Riflema

Crude oil is not the only commodity that is crashing. Iron ore is on a similar trajectory and for a common reason. Namely, the two-decade-long economic boom fueled by the money printing rampage of the world’s central banks is beginning to cool rapidly.

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Nowhere is this more evident than in China’s vastly overbuilt steel industry, where capacity has soared from about 100 million tons in 1995 to upwards of 1.2 billion tons today. Again, this 12X growth in less than two decades is not just red capitalism getting rambunctious; its actually an economically cancerous deformation that will eventually dislocate the entire global economy. Stated differently, the 1 billion ton growth of China’s steel industry since 1995 represents 2X the entire capacity of the global steel industry at the time; 7X the size of Japan’s then world champion steel industry; and 10X the then size of the US industry.

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In short, when the credit and building frenzy stops, China will be drowning in excess steel capacity and will try to export its way out— flooding the world with cheap steel. A trade crisis will soon ensue, and we will shortly have the kind of globalized import quota system that was imposed on Japan in the early 1980s.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bubble; commodities; economy; oil; oilprice; steel; stockman; war
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Very interesting (long) piece from Stockman explaining how money printing around the world has gone into more than just stock markets. All kinds of players have overbuilt capacity in iron, steel, oil, etc. In the case of China massively so.

Which begs a question: What are the Chinese to do with all that excess capacity in steel, transportation, buildings. All these excesses would be handy in wartime, no? Remember how US industrial capacity prevailed in WWII?

1 posted on 12/31/2014 6:13:00 AM PST by Riflema
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To: Riflema

An economy that is built on borrowed and printed money will inevitably collapse. The Chinese sit on the granddaddy of all real estate bubbles. They have squandered immense amounts of capital into non productive and useless projects. The foundation of the US economy is almost non existent.


2 posted on 12/31/2014 6:16:47 AM PST by allendale
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To: Riflema

Finally, The Great Leap Forward.....


3 posted on 12/31/2014 6:21:57 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Riflema

-——All these excesses——

It’s really quite simple...... if you build it, they will come

the number of “they” is so large it is really incomprehensible

Then there are Houston and Dallas........ they absorbed the great excesses of the 80’s and are still growing


4 posted on 12/31/2014 6:22:34 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Riflema

Fiat money - depression - world war. Lather, rinse, repeat.


5 posted on 12/31/2014 6:22:43 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Riflema
A trade crisis will soon ensue, and we will shortly have the kind of globalized import quota system that was imposed on Japan in the early 1980s.

I doubt it. Free traitors have convinced us that tariffs are a bad thing. I wonder what Jefferson, Washington and Madison would think about today's' economic "crisis"?.

6 posted on 12/31/2014 6:24:44 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Riflema

I was thinking the same thing, there is also the issue of all the extra boys due to the one child policy.


7 posted on 12/31/2014 6:25:23 AM PST by BlackAdderess
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To: central_va

troll alert!


8 posted on 12/31/2014 6:26:03 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Riflema

How are ag commodities doing?? We all know hamburger meat is up!!

I saw a huge jump in egg prices last week
Bacon (aka pork bellies) is up at the retail stores for the past year


9 posted on 12/31/2014 6:28:24 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: central_va

Free traitors also usually like free immigration AKA open borders. For these one worlder clowns the USA is just a huge economic zone, not a nation with a Constitution and a history of freedom


10 posted on 12/31/2014 6:30:53 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
Because of the weakening dollar the USA is exporting more meat than ever. Ain't gloBULLism fun?

Link here

PDf file: http://www.usmef.org/downloads/Beef-2004-to-2013.pdf

11 posted on 12/31/2014 6:34:10 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dennisw

Ag commodities index was 714 on May 14th 2014
Today its at 555

http://us.spindices.com/indices/commodities/sp-gsci-agriculture


12 posted on 12/31/2014 6:34:59 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
Free traitors also usually like free immigration AKA open borders.

Not only that if push comes to shove they(free traitors) will defend the current income tax system over any other type of taxation like tariffs and sales taxes.

13 posted on 12/31/2014 6:36:41 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Good book for you>>>>>>

The Death of Money: The Coming Collapse of the International Monetary System
Book by James G. Rickards


14 posted on 12/31/2014 6:38:11 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Riflema
I made a decent return on my money in the Pilbarra boom on Fortesque... but this chart in that piece stood out for me...

Now, someone 'splain why WE are in the middle east? Don't gimme his horseshit about "stopping terrorism before it gets here" when the Uniparty Regime in place, sending American troops into harm's way REFUSES to control our effing borders. Let China go secure the Middle East... They have probably hundreds of millions people available at any time that can be deployed to secure their energy needs.

Mayhe we should just sell more nukes to Israel and let them turn sand into glass where they see fit to do so?

15 posted on 12/31/2014 6:39:50 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: central_va

Bad Samaritans: The Myth of Free Trade and the Secret History of Capitalism
http://www.amazon.com/Bad-Samaritans-Secret-History-Capitalism/dp/1596915986

Written by a Korean-American! Not by a stupid white boy free traitor who learned stupid s____ in college from his stupid economics profs


16 posted on 12/31/2014 6:41:06 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw; All

While I HATE to use NPR as a source - California has bit off their beak to spite their faces when it comes to egg production.

This could serve as a valuable lesson in supply and demand, but it IS California, so that’s not gonna happen, LOL!

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/12/29/373802858/how-californias-new-rules-are-scrambling-the-egg-industry


17 posted on 12/31/2014 6:42:20 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: dennisw
I really have a keen understanding of the economic situation "free" trade has gotten us in. Capitalism without patriotism and morals is a recipe for disaster. They don't teach the later in B-school. The dogma is all govt's and systems are equal.

Economics does not operate in a political vacuum.

18 posted on 12/31/2014 6:47:01 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I am reading your link!

Specifically-—
Dozen eggs was $1.59 two weeks ago and that was a slow rise from previously
Yesterday was at $2.19


19 posted on 12/31/2014 6:47:23 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: central_va
Economics does not operate in a political vacuum.

And high IQ NE Asians (Japan China Taiwan Korea) play the game this way. They are not free traders. They are mercantilists who laugh at Anglo-sphere delusions about free trade and exploit them to win! Only chumps and brain washed college students believe free trade doctrines

20 posted on 12/31/2014 6:51:34 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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