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Eliminating potential suffering in individual situations doesn't count towards ending child suffering in general if the means to end the suffering includes killing the child.

Exactly!

1 posted on 01/06/2015 7:40:40 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 01/06/2015 7:41:02 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 01/06/2015 7:47:16 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Leftists want to be the God in which they don’t believe. What a quandary!


4 posted on 01/06/2015 7:47:37 AM PST by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: wagglebee

Just as it was compassionate of the Nazis to end Jewish suffering by gassing and burning them, so it is an act of compassion to keep a child from potentially suffering in the future by tearing them limb from limb in the womb. /s


5 posted on 01/06/2015 7:47:50 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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It is NOT compassionate. It is murder.

If this is allowed how long until it becomes policy regarding adults? And who will determine whom is suffering?

No thank you!


6 posted on 01/06/2015 7:55:09 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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To: wagglebee

Why not just kill off the entire human race because they *might suffer*, then?

As if suffering were always a bad thing.


7 posted on 01/06/2015 7:56:29 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: wagglebee

Judas yesterday: “For this perfume might have been sold for a high price and the money given to the poor.”

Judas today: “By opposing abortion, you must not care about those children who are suffering.”


8 posted on 01/06/2015 7:58:36 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (Even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.)
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To: wagglebee

I wonder if those who claim dismemberment and death is “compassionate” would like it if someone decided to be “compassionate” to them?


9 posted on 01/06/2015 8:00:56 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: wagglebee

Some of our “ethicists” seem to be channeling Sophocles’s Oedipus: “Never to have been born is best of all.”

Ultimately any moral calculus based on philosophical hedonism (even without embracing coarse hedonism) is anti-human.


10 posted on 01/06/2015 8:01:47 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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Somebody come out and advocate snuffing kittens and puppies and listen to these cold-blodded baby killers scream cruelty, and worse!


12 posted on 01/06/2015 8:05:24 AM PST by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: wagglebee
Commandment 6: You shall not murder.

murder

Noun:The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

Verb: Kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.

To all the unbelievers, call it anything else but "it is what it is" - I call it murder!

This is my opinion only, your mileage may vary.

13 posted on 01/06/2015 8:12:29 AM PST by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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Whatever the reason is for an abortion is, plain and simply, premeditated murder.

The woman plans to murder her child.

The woman arranges with someone to kill that child.

The woman has that child killed and pays the killer.

Plain and simply premeditated murder for whatever reason.

And in all the above steps, the child is totally innocent and couldn’t possibly have caused “potential suffering” in any way possible.


18 posted on 01/06/2015 8:42:49 AM PST by laweeks
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Why stop at abortion, let us kill any one who might have complications. In grown toenail, you die so as not to suffer.


19 posted on 01/06/2015 8:57:56 AM PST by 20yearvet (they yell for more tests as long as its your money)
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To: wagglebee

The idea of murdering to eliminate “potential” suffering is absurd. No one is God who can predict a person’s life. The preposterous concept that the murder of an innocent unborn human being is somehow justified by a merely potential eventuality that may not even become reality is simply dreadful.

Also - Christians - at least Catholics - have always looked upon suffering itself as having merit. We are imitating Christ’s suffering on the cross. St. Paul tells us in Col. 1:24: ...what is lacking of the sufferings of Christ I fill up in my flesh for his body, which is the Church. Suffering isn’t automatically the worst thing ever; killing someone as a justification to prevent it is a tragic premise.


20 posted on 01/06/2015 9:08:36 AM PST by stonehouse01
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To: wagglebee
You betcha! Dismembering a living, breathing, feeling human in the most tortuous way possible is always an act of compassion.

But do that to, say, a dolphin. Then see how far you'd get with the freedom of choice folk.

21 posted on 01/06/2015 9:11:08 AM PST by LouAvul (If government is the answer, you're asking the wrong question.)
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To: wagglebee

This is what happens when people lose their belief in God.


23 posted on 01/06/2015 9:37:53 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Lebens unwertes leben ...

We've heard this refrain before. It ended badly ...


24 posted on 01/06/2015 9:43:08 AM PST by NorthMountain
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Aborting the child is a band-aid solution that fixes nothing.

It actually exacerbates more problems. 1) The potential risk for Breast cancer goes up dramatically.

2) The mental health issues the woman and the child's father *(assuming he knows) also increases.

For me it comes down to this: God put that child here with those parents for a reason. I am not even going to try and guess what that reason might be, but He is in charge and knows what he is doing. I trust in Him above all else.

25 posted on 01/06/2015 10:00:10 AM PST by verga
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Anyone who’s born will experience suffering sooner or later. Far from being compassionate, it’s yet another step along the slippery trail being blazed by Belgium.


27 posted on 01/06/2015 12:56:09 PM PST by DPMD
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