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Plug-In Electric Car Sales Continue Rise In 2014: 100,000-Plus Last Year
Green Car Reports ^ | January 5, 2015 | John Voelcker

Posted on 01/10/2015 9:32:02 AM PST by LogicDesigner

Plug-in electric car sales for calendar year 2014 rose above the 100,000 level, the third annual increase in full-year sales in the U.S. since modern electric cars first went on sale in December 2010.

The highest-selling electric car in the world, the Nissan Leaf, set a new U.S. record for plug-in sales of a single vehicle in one year, logging 30,200 deliveries during 2014.

That compares to a 2013 total of 22,610, and less than 10,000 units in each of its first two years on sale.

The balance of 70,000-plus was made up of sales of no fewer than 20 other cars with plugs.

(We also note that Hyundai leased 54 of its hydrogen-powered Tucson Fuel Cell crossover utility vehicles. Honda delivered 2 FCX Clarity fuel-cell vehicles as well this year, against 10 leased in 2013.)

The bulk of them, however, remain quite low-volume, selling 250 or fewer units per month.

Only a small number of plug-in electric cars routinely racks up U.S. sales of 1,000 or more units a month.

The others include the Chevrolet Volt and the Tesla Model S. More recently, the BMW i3 sales hit that level for three months last year.

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KEYWORDS: electriccar; electriccars; ev; evs; explodinggolfcart
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To: LogicDesigner
Often people take the absolute cheapest econobox on the market and compare it to an electric vehicle. I don't think that is fair considering the peppy acceleration that most EVs have.

Most informed people on a budget do some sort of cost analysis before purchasing a car. I bought somewhat of a gas guzzler back in 2009 with a huge discount. Before I bought it, I pondered if I could afford it if gas went to $6 a gallon. Since I only live a few miles away from work, I decided to pull the trigger. If I had a lengthy daily commute, I wouldn't have bought the car.

101 posted on 01/10/2015 2:44:38 PM PST by EVO X
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To: ziravan
“So. I’ll concede that the original idea was first enacted by Pres. Bush in 2005. The current version is identical in form, it just applies to EVs instead of hybrids, at a rate of 200,000 models per manufacturer instead of 60k.”

You are referencing the wrong piece of legislation. The one that Bush signed into law did indeed apply to EVs, and it was for $7,500. It was called the “Energy Improvement and Extension Act of 2008.” You can read about here, specifically the section titled “Transportation Sector.”

I made a slight mistake though. The one Bush signed into law covered the first 250,000 vehicles sold by all manufacturers combined, not the first 200,000.

The provision did not get much press at the time, mainly because the first electric cars did come to market until December 2010.

102 posted on 01/10/2015 3:01:21 PM PST by LogicDesigner
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To: ctdonath2; whodathunkit; SoFloFreeper; a fool in paradise; goldstategop; ifinnegan; ...
I thought this might be of interest to those who had replied to this thread:

BREAKING: Chevrolet ‘Bolt’ Concept 200-Mile Electric Car To Target Tesla

103 posted on 01/10/2015 3:16:47 PM PST by LogicDesigner
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To: LogicDesigner

I appreciate the thought, but I won’t have anything to do with GM ever again. I disliked the whole Government Motors bailout of the union pension fund. I don’t usually waste time wishing anybody or anything ill, but I’d take popcorn to GM’s funeral.


104 posted on 01/10/2015 3:21:55 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: LogicDesigner

The folks who buy a tesla aren’t trying to save money. I’m not sure they are GM customers....


105 posted on 01/10/2015 3:55:23 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: LogicDesigner

No, taking money out of the hand of one person and giving it to another is not commerce. It is thievery.


106 posted on 01/10/2015 3:57:14 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: RayChuang88

“What may be a lot more viable are plug-in hybrids with better battery designs that could push the all-electric range of the vehicle to 40-60 miles before the gasoline engine “kicks in” to provide power and to recharge the battery.”

BMW i3 has an optional, small displacement gasoline engine designated for “range extender.” It essentially recharges the battery while you are underway using electricity always to power the car.


107 posted on 01/10/2015 3:57:49 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: RFEngineer

The article headline is referencing the upcoming Tesla Model 3, which has a target price of $35,000.


108 posted on 01/10/2015 3:58:07 PM PST by LogicDesigner
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To: LogicDesigner

http://jalopnik.com/the-chevrolet-bolt-will-be-a-200-mile-electric-tesla-fi-1678649485


109 posted on 01/10/2015 4:00:47 PM PST by mylife
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To: SoFloFreeper
“No, taking money out of the hand of one person and giving it to another is not commerce. It is thievery.”

The $7,500 is a tax credit, which means you only qualify for the full amount if you owe at least $7,500 in taxes that year. So it is a tax break, not a hand out.

That may be a semantic argument, but I just wanted to make it clear that no one is being written a check for $7,500.

110 posted on 01/10/2015 4:06:12 PM PST by LogicDesigner
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To: LogicDesigner

The only giveadamn I have in this game is the government subsidies to electric car buyers and the corruption of government that subsidies inevitably invite.


111 posted on 01/10/2015 4:09:38 PM PST by jwalsh07 (E)
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I do not see how converting oil to steam, to mechanical energy, to High voltage AC, transmitting it over long lengths of powerlines, stepping down the voltage, stepping it down again and converting it to DC could be that darned efficient.

I have central electric heat, but I am using Gas to heat my home.
It is cheaper.


112 posted on 01/10/2015 4:10:05 PM PST by mylife
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To: LogicDesigner

No it is redistribution from your neighbor to you. Now you may be fine with that as a policy but don’t shit on my leg and tell me you spilled the gravy.


113 posted on 01/10/2015 4:13:42 PM PST by jwalsh07 (E)
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To: jwalsh07

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geDaJ-LotKg


114 posted on 01/10/2015 4:17:58 PM PST by mylife
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To: mylife
“I do not see how converting oil to steam, to mechanical energy, to High voltage AC, transmitting it over long lengths of powerlines, stepping down the voltage, stepping it down again and converting it to DC could be that darned efficient. I have central electric heat, but I am using Gas to heat my home. It is cheaper.”

We don't use oil to make electricity in this country, unless you count the 1% of our generation that comes from backup diesel generators.

Regardless, electricity is about half as cheap as gasoline on a per-mile basis. Power transmission through the grid only has on average 6% loss, and transformation and AC to DC conversion have efficiencies in the upper 90s.

115 posted on 01/10/2015 4:27:24 PM PST by LogicDesigner
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To: LogicDesigner

All meaningless if I cannot have a decent (400-500) range and fill up in under 5 mins


116 posted on 01/10/2015 4:44:25 PM PST by mylife
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And I am extremely skeptical of these 200-300 mi a charge claims.


117 posted on 01/10/2015 4:48:46 PM PST by mylife
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Can anyone imagine charging stations coast to coast that take multiple hours or over night to charge?

Where the money in it?
You open a hotel for the dozen people there?
A lounge?
Chargers are full... No new customers till someone leaves.


118 posted on 01/10/2015 4:54:36 PM PST by mylife
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To: Gen.Blather

Have you had it long enough to assess maintenance costs/hassles? I have a Passat (gas engine) and VW seems to be on the pricey side as far as maintenance goes.


119 posted on 01/10/2015 5:01:29 PM PST by pluvmantelo (Democrats: the party of moral hazard, the IRS, the NSA and the heckler's veto)
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To: LogicDesigner

I demonstrated Ion propulsion as a kid in 5th grade.
Useless on earth.

But we are using it now for deep space.

Of course the Ion propelled vehicle could never get out of our atmosphere using Ion propulsion.

I am not against ideas or developing ideas.
I am against people finagling us into using stuff that is not ready for prime time.


120 posted on 01/10/2015 5:02:10 PM PST by mylife
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