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MSNBC Analyst: Americans Having Guns While Terrorists On Loose Would Cause More Carnage or Something
Townhall ^ | January 9, 2015 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 01/10/2015 11:03:40 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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If two Islamic terrorists were on the loose in your neighborhood or city, would you want easy access to firearms in order to protect yourself? Well, MSNBC analyst and Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson thinks access to weapons in the United States would cause "more carnage" in that situation. From Real Clear Politics:

"Just to keep it into perspective, I don't think we should imagine that the conditions and the threat are exactly the same in the United States as they are in France. They are different. In fact, one thing that is different here is weapons are universally available and so it is actually a very good thing that, that the tensions are not exactly the same because we would expect to have a lot more carnage."

More carnage? For who? Terrorists confronted by armed Americans? It was just a few months ago when Vaughan Foods CEO Mark Vaughan shot and killed Islamist Alton Nolen after he beheaded a female co-worker and was stabbing another in Oklahoma City.

A few things. First, Said and Cherif Kouachi used AK-47s a rocket launcher during their Charlie Hebdo murder rampage earlier this week in Paris. AK-47s are banned in France and rocket launchers are as well. They still had no problem carrying out their attack, killing 12 people for the simple crime of drawing cartoons of Mohammed. Let's not forget that unarmed French police retreated in the face the heavily armed Kouachi brothers. Second, if an attack like this happens in the United States, it will most likely be in a place like New York City or Washington D.C. where civilians are incapable of defending themselves. Third, weapons in the U.S. aren't "universally accessible" as Robinson claims and require paperwork, background checks and significant waiting times in some states.

Robinson's comments remind me of the Boston Marathon bombing when Islamic bombers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were on the run and people were told to barricade themselves inside their homes. People of Boston were also told the Tsarnaevs were armed, dangerous and potentially taking hostages. This is what I said at the time:

"Oh, the guy who bombed Boston is on the loose in my neighborhood? Super glad I don't have an AR-15 with 30 round mags" Said nobody, ever. — Katie Pavlich (@KatiePavlich) April 19, 2013

After the manhunt in Boston finally ended, a Fox News poll showed that 69 percent of Americans would have wanted a gun if they were in that situation.

On Friday, the nation watched as the Boston area went under lockdown during a manhunt for the armed and dangerous marathon bombing suspect. If you were in that situation, would you want a gun at your side?

Most American voters say yes, according to a new Fox News poll.

Sixty-nine percent say if they were in a situation similar to Bostonians, they would want a gun in their house.

That includes a large 88-percent majority of those in gun-owner households, as well as 50 percent of those in non-gun homes.

When it comes to fighting terrorism, the "universal access" to firearms for civilians in the United States is a good thing and by the way, Islamic terrorists don't give a damn about gun control (unless of course it means more control on the very people they want to slaughter, then they like the advantage).

H/T Mediaite


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; charliehebdo; france; media
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To: Sherman Logan

There the one’s in the rag head outfit with the sheep girl friends. They pray five times a day pointed at Mecca, easy target. If all else fails wear bacon around you neck and a pork chop in you hip pocket. First rule of fight club is there are no rules. Small unit action fast and clean, go to the jungle.

A somewhat hypothetical answer, to be sure.


61 posted on 01/10/2015 2:00:34 PM PST by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Terrorist attacks are easily battles of attrition.

Once they run out of ammo, firepower, and their stealth, they are simply finite targets in an environment of millions of very upset armed Americans.


62 posted on 01/10/2015 2:02:21 PM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: lostboy61

Small unit actions are only fast and clean when the units are well-trained and controlled.

Random collections of overage, overweight and over-eager wannabees will neither fast nor clean.


63 posted on 01/10/2015 2:57:17 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberals are just afraid we’d kill a muslim terrorist. They see them as friends.


64 posted on 01/10/2015 4:56:39 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Islamic terrorists invade the WashPo offices and start shooting people. Robinson hears the gunfire and doesn't know what to do. One of the terrorists barges into Robinson's quarters, but one brave office worker sneaks up and klonks the terrorist over the head with a hard object knocking him out.

Within easy reach of Robinson is the terrorist's automatic weapon. What do you think Robinson might do? Wait for the swat team to save everybody, or pick up the weapon? Unless Robinson is the stupidest person in the world, he picks up the automatic rifle.

65 posted on 01/10/2015 6:33:37 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: driftless2

He might pick it up, but would he know how to use it? Would he even know which end to point at the terrorist?


66 posted on 01/10/2015 6:35:06 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius
I bet he'd pick it up. I don't think even stupid liberals like Robinson are totally clueless. Even if he didn't know how to use it, he'd give it a try.

My point was the gun-hating Robinson when faced with a mortal threat to his life, would be very happy to have some firearm in his hands rather than unarmed and hoping the police could save him before he was drilled.

67 posted on 01/10/2015 8:12:39 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: pepsi_junkie
Thanks to lefties I have been waiting since November for a firearm purchase ID card so I can buy a shotgun. I turned in all the paperwork for the background checks including letters from two character witnesses, notarized, no less. One of those letters is from a township cop. Still waiting.
You may want to consider moving to Arizona or Texas.
68 posted on 01/10/2015 8:47:35 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well there is something to be said. Both the terrorists in Paris and the police dressed basically the same - bullet proof vest, black with balaclavas.

Some police said, police while others did not.

I will still be armed though.


69 posted on 01/11/2015 9:05:11 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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