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NYPD cops told no vacations until work slowdown ends
New York Post ^ | Jan. 11, 2015 | Shawn Cohen

Posted on 01/11/2015 7:16:18 AM PST by PROCON

It’s a slowdown showdown.

At precincts across the city, top brass are cracking the whip on summons activity and even barring many cops from taking vacation and sick days, The Post has learned.

Throughout the city, precincts are being ordered to hand up to borough commanders “activity sheets” indicating the number of arrests and summonses per shift, sources told The Post.

“Police officers around the city are now threatened with transfers, no vacation time and sick time unless they write summonses,” one union source said.

“This is the same practice that caused officers to be labeled racist and abusers of power.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: alsharpton; andrewcuomo; billdeblasio; chirlanemccray; newyork; newyorkcity; nypd
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To: freedumb2003

Collective Bargaining Agreements

Police Department

The coppers have been without a new contract for some time, now working under this agreement.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/olr/html/collective_bargaining/police_contracts.shtml


41 posted on 01/11/2015 8:47:24 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I was gonna say. They’ll just take sick days.


42 posted on 01/11/2015 8:49:18 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: davidb56
With all that idle time for not having to “revenue write”, perhaps some layoffs are in order.

No. There's no idle time.

Read post 39 and learn.

43 posted on 01/11/2015 8:52:07 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Black Agnes

Can’t do that either. See my post #33. Sorry for the typos, but you’ll get the gist.


44 posted on 01/11/2015 8:52:59 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: proxy_user
If you are an employee who works for a paycheck, you’re going to have to do what the boss tells you. You might slack off for a bit, but eventually they’re going to tell you to get moving.

Get moving for what? Ask police brass whether there is a ticket quota for police officers and they will tell you absolutely not, and that a quota system might very well be illegal because in theory, ticket writing is about enforcing the law, not about raising revenue. If a police officer doesn't see someone speeding, running a light/stop sign, parking illegally, or making an illegal turn, then the officer has no legal basis to write a ticket.

45 posted on 01/11/2015 8:54:42 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: thefactor

Because there are no doctors on their side or anything.

Look into the whole disability scam that’s been ongoing with that department for years and years. Perpetrated mainly by dishonest doctors who certify perfectly healthy people as disability candidates.


46 posted on 01/11/2015 8:58:42 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Oliviaforever
That is the way to deal with union actions.

No. That is the way to generate Big Government revenue at the expense of the cops being able to safely respond to legitimate criminal activity.

47 posted on 01/11/2015 8:59:20 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: rockrr
Perfect. Of all the options they could have turned to to resolve the impasse they chose the one most likely to make things worse.

And that sums it up just about right.

This has got to be the most ham-handed administration in the country.

Rather than addressing the problems of the police/mayor relationship (real and perceived) and the impact on New York, DeBlahBlah takes the most stupid imperial course of action.

He'll be run out of office before this mess is sorted out.

48 posted on 01/11/2015 9:08:24 AM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: Black Agnes

Bottom line is that the Department can make it very difficult go simply call in sick. They can order you to go to the surgeon. And while the docs take what the cops say into consideration, there is no collusion at this level to get a cop a couple days off. It’s not worth anyone’s career.


49 posted on 01/11/2015 9:12:06 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

It’s impossible for them to get fired.

They’re safer than tenured professors.

I’ve worked around unionzed peeps in NYC. It’s a whole ‘nother world.


50 posted on 01/11/2015 9:18:23 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Leaning Right
Yep. If the police union takes this to court (and I hope they do), the union will win. I'm sure the contract clearly states the time off rules. But I doubt if there's any linkage to the writing of tickets, etc.

This is how badly BeBlahBlah has mismanaged this situation:

Many Freepers, myself included, seem to be on the side of the UNIONS in this instance.

I cannot remember the last time I sided with a labor union on anything.

51 posted on 01/11/2015 9:20:21 AM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: Tanniker Smith

This is a quota, illegal under law in most states and I’m pretty sure New York is one of them. Any summons written under a quota will be dismissed with prejudice by the courts.

What DeBlahBlah and Bratton are demanding is that the cops turn up the heat on whitey. Whites are the only safe target. Expect more arrests for double parking and jay walking and fewer for weapons and drugs.


52 posted on 01/11/2015 9:21:52 AM PST by SargeK
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To: PROCON

The politicos want “their” money because money = power. I hope the NYPD rank and file stick to their guns against their politically a pointed bosses.


53 posted on 01/11/2015 9:22:10 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Black Agnes
I was talking more about the doctors than the cops. And just to be fair, they city fights against a lot of cops who have legitimate injuries. The docs know that and give cops the benefit of the doubt.

As for firing cops, I know it's not easy. But all aspects of discipline and termination were collectively bargained so both the city and the unions are to blame. If a "bad" cop can't be fired, they are dealt with in other ways.

54 posted on 01/11/2015 9:22:15 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

The group dynamics are about 99.5% against the city.

IIRC the city caved for the teachers and offered the coppers spit.

Same as in the military if you hear the words ‘this is a direct and lawful order’; all credibility is lost.

The reply in RVN was ‘what you going to do, send me to Viet Nam?

Rumor had it life was better/safer in the brig/stockade than out in the bush.


55 posted on 01/11/2015 9:24:05 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good.)
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56 posted on 01/11/2015 9:24:17 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: rockrr

***Perfect. Of all the options they could have turned to to resolve the impasse they chose the one most likely to make things worse.*****

Exactly


57 posted on 01/11/2015 9:26:49 AM PST by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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To: JonPreston

58 posted on 01/11/2015 9:27:20 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: thefactor

Look up ‘rubber room’ for what happens to ‘should have been fired’ teachers in NYC.

Throw me into that briar patch!

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/education/city-schools-rubber-rooms-bounce-back-article-1.1184406

They city will lose this. It will cost them way more than a few tickets if the union decides to dig in its heels.


59 posted on 01/11/2015 9:27:50 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: FreeReign

Unions in the private sector and be public sector are an anathema to free markets and public safety.


60 posted on 01/11/2015 9:27:58 AM PST by Oliviaforever
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