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Can a rebrand make Republicans raise the gas tax?
PRI.org ^ | January 12, 2015 | PRI

Posted on 01/13/2015 2:11:14 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; stephenjohnbanker
Senator Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) is proposing that the gas tax be raised six cents in 2016, six cents in 2017, and then be tied to inflation after that. But he’s not exactly calling it a gas tax.

Joni Erst, we have a hog for you, take care of business.

21 posted on 01/13/2015 5:12:09 AM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Government DOESN”T NEED MORE OF OUR MONEY!!!!!

We need to SHRINK GOVERNMENT!!!


22 posted on 01/13/2015 5:12:31 AM PST by G Larry (Daesh - Obama's future dream for his friends in the Muslim Brotherhood)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"People who use the highways ought to pay for them — that’s a small price to pay to have the best highway system in the world. That may be where we’ll have to go.” - Orrin Hatch

Hmmm. Great idea, Orrin. Let's look at some other things this could be applied to....

Air Recycling Fee People who breathe the air ought to pay for it — that’s a small price to pay to enjoy the finest air supply in the world. That may be where we’ll have to go.

Pedestrian Fee People who are ambulatory ought to pay for it — that’s a small price to pay to enjoy the privilege of moving around the best country in the world. That may be where we’ll have to go.

Non-Ambulatory Person Fee People who choose to not move around ought to pay for it— that’s a small price to pay to enjoy moments of rest or simply not moving around the best country in the world. That may be where we’ll have to go.

Personal Existence Fee People who exist ought to pay for it — that’s a small price to pay to enjoy the priviledge of being alive. That may be where we’ll have to go.

Where you will have to go, Orrin, along with your similarly minded compatriots and lobbyists, is AWAY. You people were put into office to halt and roll back the insanity of the past 6 years, and the first thing you people do is look for ways to perpetuate it.

23 posted on 01/13/2015 5:58:13 AM PST by Tench_Coxe (For every Allende, there is a Pinochet)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The debate is at an early stage, and it’s fair to say House conservatives will hate the idea. But a few powerful GOP senators are signaling they're open to the idea. Even House Speaker John Boehner, who personally opposes raising the gas tax, hasn't ruled it out.

These are probably the same people who say "I'm personally against abortion, but ..."

There are far too many "Republicans" who never met a tax they didn't like.

24 posted on 01/13/2015 5:59:39 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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So you would rather pay much more for road use just for the ‘pleasure’ of not calling that cost a tax?

The highest combined state and local gas tax is around 70 cents per gallon. Even if you were only getting 15 MPG that represents a ‘toll’ of under 5 cents per mile.

I prefer a 5 cents cost to a 20 cents cost regardless of what that cost is called.


25 posted on 01/13/2015 6:09:36 AM PST by evilC
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"Because national road infrastructure is crumbling, and the highway trust fund is in a perennial state of financial crisis, several Republicans say it's time to raise the tax that Americans pay at the pump to repair roads and bridges."

Punish the innocent. Morons. First, look at every penny you spend out of the Highway Trust Fund. Look for all the waste, fraud and abuse. Do your d*mn jobs first, before asking us to pay more.

Republicans, no wonder your brand sucks. You've earned it.

26 posted on 01/13/2015 8:13:26 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have freedom or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This is the priority of the GOP - raising the gas tax?

Not a dime’s bit of difference between the two parties.


27 posted on 01/13/2015 8:16:40 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They just took the oath a week or so ago and already trying to raise taxes. Already backing off on repealing OCare, already talking about passing amnesty, already passed a $1.2 trillion Cromnibus giving Obama everything he wants.


28 posted on 01/13/2015 8:17:50 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Revenue from the Gasoline Tax is not dependent on the price of oil, is a tax per gallon. These GOPe scum hope you won’t notice since the price at the pump has returned to pre-obama price. Come on Sarah-Ted give us a real choice.


29 posted on 01/13/2015 8:52:51 AM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs.)
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To: Lion Den Dan
Oh, for an edit function.

To revise and extend my remarks, even to include extraneous material.

Run for Congress and you too can have that privilege.

30 posted on 01/13/2015 8:58:36 AM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs.)
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To: Tench_Coxe
Where you will have to go, Orrin, along with your similarly minded compatriots and lobbyists,

Even Levin griped about opposition to this scum bag. He gave us Buzzy Ginsberg, recommended her to Billery.

31 posted on 01/13/2015 9:00:47 AM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs.)
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To: RinaseaofDs
Not a dime’s bit of difference between the two parties.

$.98 - $.89 < $.10

32 posted on 01/13/2015 9:03:10 AM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Gruber was right.
33 posted on 01/13/2015 9:06:59 AM PST by right way right (America will reject the suck of Socialist Freedumb, one way or another.)
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I am against this, but if you have to raise revenue based on fuel do it with an import tariff on crude. This would actually benefit US oil workers. Retail gas taxes are stupid, stupid, stupid when it comes to fuel taxes.


34 posted on 01/13/2015 9:10:53 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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The current tax on gasoline, which hasn’t been raised since 1993, sits at 18.4 cents per gallon — 24.4 cents per gallon for diesel fuel.

The revenue generated from the gas tax goes to the Highway Trust Fund, which was was established in 1956 and is the primary way that federal highway and transit programs are funded.

Diesel Fuel is taxed 6 cents more per gallon than is gasoline. That money goes for Deficit Reduction, not to the Highway Trust Fund.

Bill Clinton and Congress passed the higher tax diesel because trucks don't vote, automobile drivers do vote.

Any increase in the diesel tax is an indirect tax and is hidden from the voters. Take a look at the number of 18 wheelers on the highway. You buy the goods they haul, you pay for their taxes.

The author is either ignorant or is lying about where the tax money goes.

35 posted on 01/13/2015 11:19:34 AM PST by TYVets
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I get beat-up EVERY TIME that I call for a gas tax increase...so I figured I’d call for the alternative - since we WILL get one or the other.

Looks like that’s not too popular either.


36 posted on 01/13/2015 4:13:15 PM PST by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

An import tariff on crude is the only one that makes sense.


37 posted on 01/13/2015 4:15:28 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BobL
I get beat-up EVERY TIME that I call for a gas tax increase...so I figured I’d call for the alternative - since we WILL get one or the other. Looks like that’s not too popular either.

Call for fiscal responsibility. With that, more taxes or pay by the mile schemes won't be needed.

38 posted on 01/13/2015 6:39:22 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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“Call for fiscal responsibility. With that, more taxes or pay by the mile schemes won’t be needed.”

Yes, if that were a valid third option - but it seems to be locked out, and we wind up with either the gas tax or tolling - certainly in Texas, at least.


39 posted on 01/13/2015 7:09:48 PM PST by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win.)
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To: BobL

Ha Ha! You are correct we will get one or the other and you will get beat up for suggesting either.

My concern with tolls is that most lead to massive tracking as the systems (as in Europe) would likely be based on license plate recognition. That would provide a large database of people’s movements (probably with pictures/facial recognition).

Tolls always end up more expensive than even the least economical gas guzzler would pay in tax, and would probably rise faster with less resistance (politicians: “but it’s a private corporation, what can we do?”).

As roads do need to be paid for the gas tax is probably the easiest and least intrusive. If they do increase the gas tax than at they should remove the gap between diesel and gasoline. That would allow diesel powered cars a fair shake in the market (the days of agricultural diesel engines are long gone; modern diesels can provide all the performance of gasoline with none of the rattle of diesels of old).


40 posted on 01/14/2015 5:35:30 AM PST by evilC
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