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Pope Francis on Freedom of Speech: 'One Cannot Make Fun of Faith'
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris-magazine-attack/pope-francis-freedom-speech-one-cannot-make-fun-faith-n286631 ^

Posted on 01/15/2015 12:47:30 PM PST by Thistooshallpass9

Pope Francis suggested there are limits to freedom of expression, saying in response to the Charlie Hebdo terror attack that "one cannot make fun of faith" and that anyone who throws insults can expect a "punch."

The pontiff said that both freedom of faith and freedom of speech were fundamental human rights and that "every religion has its dignity."

"One cannot provoke, one cannot insult other people's faith, one cannot make fun of faith," he said. "There is a limit. Every religion has its dignity ... in freedom of expression there are limits."

The pope was speaking to reporters on a plane as he flew from Sri Lanka to the Philippines on his tour of Asia.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: freedomofspeech; pope; popefrancis; religion
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To: Thistooshallpass9
Dear Francis:

Piss off.

I'll make fun of any and everything I care to, and use any means at my disposal to proactively defend myself against anyone who would try to shut me down- you, mullahs, pastors, atheists.

The ONLY limits to speech should be libel, slander, and the revealing of legitimately classified information. And I will be exactly as prone to use violence to defend this position as any Jihadi, crusader or officer of the law.

21 posted on 01/15/2015 1:03:19 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Mercat

Do you have ANY reason to believe he DIDN’T say this?

“Gesturing towards Alberto Gasparri, a Vatican official who organises pontifical trips and who was standing next to him on board the plane, he said: “If my good friend Dr Gasparri says a curse word against my mother, he can expect a punch in the nose.”

Throwing a pretend punch, the Pope said: “It’s normal. You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/11347931/Pope-Francis-You-cannot-make-fun-of-the-faith-of-others.html

Also:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/pope-francis-limits-to-freedom-of-expression

Pope Francie is a two-legged, walking, talking disaster for the Catholic Church.


22 posted on 01/15/2015 1:03:38 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Thistooshallpass9

Such for 5 urging the other cheek...This pope is not very impressive...


24 posted on 01/15/2015 1:11:52 PM PST by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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To: Thistooshallpass9

I think the Pope has just told me the next time someone cracks a Catholic joke I should go and belt him.


25 posted on 01/15/2015 1:19:29 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I think the Pope has just told me the next time someone cracks a Catholic joke I should go and belt him.

Or shoot the joke teller and anyone who might have done the same. I mean, they still have the right to free expression and all, they should just expect to be gunned down if they use it. Makes perfect sense in the worldview of a leftist Jesuit.

26 posted on 01/15/2015 1:21:51 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Thistooshallpass9

“Throwing a pretend punch, the Pope said: ‘It’s normal. You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others.’ ”

It’s normal? What violent reactions would he classify as normal, in addition to punching? Let him say what actions he thinks are “normal” when one is provoked. If he is maintaining that his throwing punches or engaging in other violent activity should be dismissed as “normal,” pope needs a course in anger management.


27 posted on 01/15/2015 1:22:39 PM PST by BusterBear
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To: VanDeKoik
"This was the best of the bunch to pick from?"

They didn't ask for my opinion.
28 posted on 01/15/2015 1:22:57 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Thistooshallpass9

Well, the Catholic Church always wanted to shut Martin Luther up.


29 posted on 01/15/2015 1:23:19 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (Obama voters are my enemy. And so are republican voters.)
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To: bunkerhill7

He and W pray to the same God.


30 posted on 01/15/2015 1:24:18 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (Obama voters are my enemy. And so are republican voters.)
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To: VanDeKoik
Seriously, Catholics? This was the best of the bunch to pick from?

Seriously, I lost my invitation to vote in the last pope election.

31 posted on 01/15/2015 1:24:56 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: BusterBear

If he thinks violence is justifiable for an insult, Francis also needs a course in Christianity.


32 posted on 01/15/2015 1:25:32 PM PST by livius
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To: Longbow1969

I wouldn’t blame it all on being a Latin American Jesuit...he’s also a foolish vain old man whose press-stoked ego has gotten so huge it’s about to explode. He shouldn’t be allowed out in public without a gag.


33 posted on 01/15/2015 1:28:38 PM PST by livius
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To: Thistooshallpass9

Sorry Mr Francis, “making fun” of other people’s opinions, on secular or religious matters, is an integral part of freedom of speech. From the head of the world’s religious institution with the longest history against separation of church and state, Mr Francis’ remarks are not surprising.

Yes, I am being serious and funny at the same time. To some Mr Francis may be a pope, but to me he’s just Mr Francis. Respecting someone’s religious title is reserved for those OBLIGATED by their faith to respect it, not anyone else. There, that’s freedom of speech by western standards, Mr Francis.


34 posted on 01/15/2015 1:34:35 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Mr Rogers

http://www.ewtnnews.com/catholic-news/World.php?id=11465

More on the risks of relying on the secular media:

http://www.churchpop.com/2015/01/11/what-burke-really-said-feminization/


35 posted on 01/15/2015 1:37:23 PM PST by Mercat
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To: Thistooshallpass9
Nurse! Nurse! It's getting worse!

Ayatollah al-Fahranziz is bolting out of the progressive closet holding a meat cleaver.

Maybe he's making a run for the coming office of False Prophet. The other candidates, Joel Osteen and Rick Warren, are losing steam and he sees his opening.

Run, Frank, Run! Just don't trip over the hem of your dress.

36 posted on 01/15/2015 1:38:02 PM PST by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: HMS Surprise
He's a fargin idiot, sorry to all Catholics. Basically he says violence is warranted for exercising free speech. How did he think Christianity was spread - by talking nicely about other religions?
37 posted on 01/15/2015 1:44:12 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: VanDeKoik

He’s from South America and embraces social justice - meaning faith is second to the socialist agenda.


38 posted on 01/15/2015 1:44:45 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Mercat

Uh, we are going from what he SAID.


39 posted on 01/15/2015 1:45:26 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Mercat

Do you have ANY reason to believe the papers are misquoting the Pope? ANY?

From your link:

“We have the obligation to freely have this liberty, but without offending. It’s true that you cannot react violently. But, if Dr. Gasbarri, my great friend, says something against my mother, he can expect a punch. It’s normal. It’s normal. You cannot provoke, you cannot insult the faith of others, you cannot make fun of the faith....So many people speak against others’ religions. They make fun of them. Let’s say they “giocatalizzano” (make a playng out of) the religion of others. But they are provoking, and what can happen is what I said about Dr. Gasbarri if he says something about my mother. There is a limit. Every religion has dignity; I cannot mock a religion that respects human life and the human person. And this is a limit. I’ve used this example of the limit to say that in the freedom of expression there are limits, like the example I gave of my mother...”


40 posted on 01/15/2015 1:45:43 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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