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Concealed-carry concerns prove to be off target (IL)
Herald Review ^ | 01/17/2015 | Ryan Voyles

Posted on 01/17/2015 11:44:34 AM PST by aimhigh

Brad Sweeney did not know what to expect when concealed-carry of firearms became law in Illinois last year. The Decatur police chief said he and his officers were hopeful that it would not cause any problems, though the thought of Decatur turning into a “wild, wild west” of gun violence did cross his mind. . . .

Concerns raised by critics as Illinois became the last state to allow concealed-carry for citizens have dissipated as officials said the roll-out has been as smooth as possible.

While some estimated that upward of 400,000 people would file for permits in the first year of the law, state police said just 91,651 applicants were granted licenses by the end of 2014.

(Excerpt) Read more at herald-review.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Illinois
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No way. Ya mean the liberals lied again! Whoa..
1 posted on 01/17/2015 11:44:34 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

It always amazes me how a majority of LEO’s everywhere know very little about the laws.

I would have thought they had some training to keep them up to date.


2 posted on 01/17/2015 11:48:33 AM PST by hadaclueonce (Ethanol is stupid.)
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To: aimhigh

Liberals are so slow to learn.

This peaceful scenario has been proven a thousand times, and a cliché has even sprung up.

An armed society is a peaceful society. How old is that Robert A. Heinlein quote?


3 posted on 01/17/2015 11:53:36 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: hadaclueonce

Please don’t mix police administrators with real police. It’s like saying politicians actually understand business.

Second, have you looked at who is providing the training/indoctrination for the police? We the people are found lazy and cheap, again.


4 posted on 01/17/2015 11:55:56 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: aimhigh
Illinois didn't “allow” CCW - they were forced by court order.
5 posted on 01/17/2015 11:59:42 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Balding_Eagle

Actually, the RAH quote is that an armed society is polite, not peaceful.

The two don’t necessarily go together. The Paris of the Three Musketeers had immensely elaborate structures for polite interaction. It was not at all peaceful, with lots of dueling and even more brawling of a less formal nature.


6 posted on 01/17/2015 12:01:10 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: aimhigh

Anti concealed and anti gun rights propaganda groups tried that “wild west shoot out at every car accident” BeeEss in each and every state before the preexisting right to self defense was recognized to some degree in every state.

Even anti gun former Michigan Governor Granholm admitted she was wrong after concealed carry had been allowed with little problems for several years.


7 posted on 01/17/2015 12:02:50 PM PST by Sasparilla (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: aimhigh
Conceal carry are really an extension of the policing that the police cannot do. Police respond usually after the fact, whereas a trained conceal carry is in the beginning of a criminal act. Any really sane person would realize that mistakes can happen but do we forget how many mistakes the police make?
8 posted on 01/17/2015 12:04:34 PM PST by Logical me
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To: hadaclueonce
I think AT LEAST as many that were turned down were good, and safe gun user citizens (shhhh ... don't tell anyone) that were refused for some piece of paper generated some years ago ... like me ... a just beyond teenage stupid act ... now, 46 yrs later ... legally ruled out

Y'might find WE are the ones the bad guys know about and back off.

9 posted on 01/17/2015 12:07:05 PM PST by knarf
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To: Sherman Logan

You’re right. Thanks.


10 posted on 01/17/2015 12:07:43 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: hadaclueonce

The Supreme Court has condoned their making up their own law on the spot.


11 posted on 01/17/2015 12:15:10 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: mad_as_he$$

The state legislature passed a law implementing CCW just like every other state.


12 posted on 01/17/2015 12:15:39 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: aimhigh
Illinois cops just like the NAZIS don't think the average person is trustworthy enough to own and carry a gun...
13 posted on 01/17/2015 12:28:04 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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14 posted on 01/17/2015 1:20:04 PM PST by RedMDer (I don't listen to Liars but when I do I know it's Barack Obama.)
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To: aimhigh

From the article:

“I tell my students to think about using their firearm like it’s a shark tank: If you wouldn’t jump into a shark tank for it, it’s not worth it,”

Say what?


15 posted on 01/17/2015 1:21:47 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: aimhigh
of 400,000 people would file for permits in the first year of the law,
state police said just 91,651 applicants were granted licenses by the end of 2014.

It's been five months and Austin still has not sent me a letter or License.
At least I still have my VA License which has reciprocity.

16 posted on 01/17/2015 1:47:09 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: aimhigh

Permits and “having to apply” for them are infringments on our second amendment rights to keep and bear arms. End.


17 posted on 01/17/2015 2:04:33 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..)
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To: bigbob
"The state legislature passed a law implementing CCW just like every other state."

But only under court order by a panel of Federal judges. I have one of the newly issued Illinois CCWs. The state government would never have done this on their own.

18 posted on 01/17/2015 3:06:25 PM PST by Lockbar (What would Vlad The Impaler do?)
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To: Springfield Reformer
“I tell my students to think about using their firearm like it’s a shark tank: If you wouldn’t jump into a shark tank for it, it’s not worth it,” Say what?

Would I jump into a shark tank if the only alternative was certain death for myself or a loved one? Probably.

Would I jump into a shark tank for the sake of an iPhone? No.

I think what he was trying to communicate, is that the aftermath of shooting somebody is very likely going to turn into the most stressful and expensive event of your life (as George Zimmerman discovered).

19 posted on 01/17/2015 3:13:25 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: faithhopecharity

I just printed a copy of the second ammendment to tape to my state-issued ccw permit. If I ever have to hand it to someone, I will explain that I have both my state and federal permits allowing me to carry.


20 posted on 01/17/2015 4:30:08 PM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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