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To: fish hawk

First, “Nazi Hunters”. While I did not watch the entire 6 part series in its entirety, I was careful to search through it in small segments. I saw nothing to back your claim that the Vatican aided post-war nazis escape from Germany. Plus, the fact that it was French made would tend to undermine rather than enhance its credibility overall. (Although some of the footage was admittedly interesting.)

Even if this were true of a few individual priests - a similar degree of un-control which we see even today - that would hardly qualify as a blanket indictment specifically of the Vatican, either then or now (although Francis seems a lot more goosey-loosey than Pius ever did, IMHO).

Second, The Guardian article. While there are references to the Vatican throughout, they are nonetheless vague and in fact appear merely figuratively, with no specific evidence to the effect you mentioned presented.

That the Guardian has had numerous accusations of antisemitism leveled against it over the years, with many of those coming from its own staffers, would not exactly seem to make it the most credible source with stories and articles relating to Jews...or Catholics for that matter.

I also looked at Wikipedia, and a number of references related to nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal, again with nothing to substantiate your claims.

Pope Pius wasn’t perfect, as none of us are. However, it seems his office did more to aid Jews during WWII than nearly any other institution through to the end of the conflict, personally hiding up to nearly 500 Italian Jews in the Vatican itself during the conflict with another 4000+ scattered around in various monasteries and convents. Also from the information I perused, Pius tried to dissuade Mussolini from any alignment with Hitler.

Thus, the bear bones of my case are laid out, as I believe yours should have been from the beginning. Whether you agree with it or not is up to you. But at least I’ve tried to detail it somewhat rather than sending you off to a bunch of websites, and admonishing you with the notion that, “I’m not going to do your homework for you”, after making such an unsupportable claim.

Sheesh!


60 posted on 02/10/2015 7:40:47 PM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Bingo exactly what I told my friend I would get back from you. congrats.


61 posted on 02/10/2015 10:01:59 PM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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