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To: PapaNew; OldNavyVet; JGT

Freedom.

Freedom is the lack of restraint against an act which you will to do.

“Freedom” as such is meaningless. Free to do what? When the Iraqis became “free”, they were free to slaughter Sunnis or Shias and to burn captives alive in cages. When the Bhutanese became free, they could set upon Nepalis who had been living under the protection of the monarchy for 500 years. When the Rwandans became free, it was really bad to be a Tutsi. And so on.

Freedom is a condition, and it is neutral in value. You can be free to do good, or free to do evil.

The growth of freedom to do evil in the world since 1792, abetted by pure democracy, is not to be respected.


146 posted on 02/10/2015 10:31:31 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble; OldNavyVet; JGT
Well, if you don't believe in freedom, then what is your solution other than government coercion? The most coercive government regimes in the world are Islamic governments and that is also where people commit probably the most evil deeds in the world against other people. Oppressive totalitarian governments have murdered more of their own citizens that all the wars ever fought.

Freedom is not the problem. Freedom is God-given. It is what people need and want and are willing to die for. Just courts of law are effective in dealing with wrongful acts between people. But generally, a society free of unjust government coercion and oppression is a happy and healthy society where government and individuals respect the rights and freedoms of the individual.

147 posted on 02/10/2015 11:15:42 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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