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Except that it shouldn't be no fault - and why is the government running interference with private corporations?
The somewhere between 5-6 billion dollar payouts indicate there are very real issues with vaccinations

I'm sorry you have a problem with the Vaccine Court. I'm assuming you would rather have trial lawyers get bigger payouts. Maybe so they can donate more to the lefty anti-corporate candidates you love so much?

There are not any real issues above and beyond issues that lie with all medical procedures. Nothing is 100% safe in life, however when you're dealing with a small handful of individual cases in tens of millions of doses, that is usually referred to as statistically insignificant. Lucky for us (or at least those of us smart enough to vaccinate our children), vaccines are among the safest medical procedures ever devised.

Recently, it was reported “When the FDA finds scientific fraud or misconduct, the agency doesn’t notify the public, the medical establishment, or even the scientific community that the results of a medical experiment are not to be trusted. On the contrary. For more than a decade, the FDA has shown a pattern of burying the details of misconduct. As a result, nobody ever finds out which data is bogus, which experiments are tainted, and which drugs might be on the market under false pretenses.”

Interesting story, but it has nothing to do with vaccines or the CDC. You should get your agencies straight before making wild accusations. Maybe you should have said "The links to the FDA and pharmaceutical companies"? Or were you not aware that they are different agencies. I know you're not one for details.

The vaccine for MMR is built on pre 60’s research. But it makes the pharmaceutical companies a lot of money, so why make it safer when the government requires it anyway?

The smallpox vaccine was built on research from the 1700s. Who cares?

I'm assuming you think that smallpox eradication was a government conspiracy as well?

Medications and vaccines are made safer likely because most of the people who develop pharmaceutical drugs are not evil and don't want to hurt people. In fact they develop things that help us.

When the corrupting influence of money comes in, or corporate interests violate those principles, we have free and open scientific research and inquiry to keep corporations straight. So far the research doesn't back anything you've said.

Saying that because of government and corporate corruption all products are always unsafe is the Ralph Nader philosophy, which you seem to have adopted. It's interesting to see a Freeper regurgitate it though.

Time Magazine summed up the relevance of the Poling case in 2008: ...(T)here’s no denying that the court’s decision to award damages to the Poling family puts a chink — a question mark — in what had been an unqualified defense of vaccine safety with regard to autism. If Hannah Poling had an underlying condition that made her vulnerable to being harmed by vaccines, it stands to reason that other children might also have such vulnerabilities.”

I find it odd that you would quote Time Magazine, which is one of the greatest purveyors of Global Warming alarmism; it's not a surprise that they are pimping phony vaccine alarmism:

Dr. John Shoffner, the Atlanta-based neurologist who identified Hannah Poling's mitochondrial disorder, is "genuinely puzzled" by the court's judgment. Shoffner, who has been studying and treating these disorders for 20 years, says it's impossible to say whether Hannah's mitochondrial disorder was, in fact, a pre-existing condition that set the stage for her autism (as the government contends) or if it developed along with her autism. A specialist in mitochondrial disorders, he is investigating the relationship between autism and these disorders and plans to present a paper on the topic at the annual meeting of the American Academy of Neurology in April. "In some subset of people with ASD — a small group of patients, I think — mitochondrial dysfunction is an important part of their disease. But it's too early to say whether it gets the ball rolling or if it comes about after the ball got rolling."

The Poling decision was based on the observation that she had a rare genetic mitochondrial disease where they might have been an exacerbation by a series of vaccines, after which one of the many other problems was she regressed and developed autism-like symptoms, and then several months later a seizure disorder.

This isn't a causal autism link, and in no way does it show anything that you're claiming.

The Japanese stopped using the MMR, not because of autism (but nice try to make it just about autism) but because of
1.8 million children had been given two types of MMR and a record number developed non-viral meningitis and other adverse reactions.

You're right, it wasn't because of autism, and I didn't say it was. I just thought it was an interesting aside to cite the Japanese study that showed no autism correlation to MMR.

The Japanese triple shot was discontinued because of negative reactions to a specific strain of the mumps compoonent, reactions that had already caused problems in the UK who had also discontinued it. As far as I can tell there were 3 deaths out of the 1.8 million vaccinations, and those were likely due to some of the MMR vaccines being given after their expiration date.

Japan has the highest incidence of measles of any industrialized country. The Japanese epidemics are a great example of why your lackadaisical approach to measles hurts the rest of us who are responsible with our health. People like you always say "If you're vaccinated, why do you care if I'm not?"

Well, here's why:

Japanese measles epidemic brings campuses to standstill

The rest of your post goes back and forth, it’s apparently ok for pharmaceutical companies to make money, but not for individuals such as Dr. Fletcher.

Dr. Fletcher was doing it dishonestly based on fraudulent research. Big difference.

Your information doesn’t debunk anything - it adds to the complete picture.

Debunking you is easy. Most of the time your sources don't say the things you claim they do, and you post only part of the story and quote things incompletely or out of context and claim that that's evidence.

You can keep lining up the bowling pins for me and I'll keep knocking them down.

Just for giggles, tell me one left anti-corporate candidate I love?

Unless you’re a parent that your child dies, develops encephalitis, joint problems, seizures or autism after receiving a “safe” procedure. I think the medical establishment generally considers abortion safe as well. Most conservatives think otherwise though.'

I’ll slow down here so you can keep up
The CDC seems to be in the business of distributing drugs after the FDA has approved them. So when the FDA isn’t doing their job, then the CDC is distributing based on faulty information. That’s problematic to really know about how safe our medications/vaccinations really are. http://www.cdc.gov/laboratory/drugservice/

The vaccine for MMR is built on pre 60’s research. But it makes the pharmaceutical companies a lot of money, so why make it safer when the government requires it anyway? The smallpox vaccine was built on research from the 1700s. Who cares?

Do you take Tylenol when you don’t need it? Or too much of it? If not why not?
Because it may have side effects that include damage to your kidneys/liver. Women who take naproxen have a higher risk of heart attacks – these are all “safe” drugs. But we don’t take them when it’s not necessary. Some of the compulsory vaccinations may not be necessary.

I'm assuming you think that smallpox eradication was a government conspiracy as well?

I’m sure you thought this was funny when you wrote it – but in reality, the fact is they stopped when the disease was no longer a threat in the US. http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/smallpox/vaccination/faq.asp

Medications and vaccines are made safer likely because most of the people who develop pharmaceutical drugs are not evil and don't want to hurt people. In fact they develop things that help us.

Or at least make money and a name for themselves, even if it's just in the research community.

See, there you go again with your OPINION, over the facts I’ve stated. It most certainly does matter if the FDA is not doing their job and when they find out there are issues don’t report it. So what I’ve said, does in fact pan out. You take medication not knowing if faulty research was done. There has never been a true safety study, they always base it against a vaccine trial.

Nothing I’ve said comes from Ralph Nader, nothing. If you can’t see there are conflicts of interest that are being unaddressed and safety may be at risk, that’s not a conservative or a liberal thing, its just uniformed at your end.

Except you are again incorrect – http://time.com/3714990/zuckerberg-vaccines-facebook/ They are very much in favor of forced vaccination and people not thinking for themselves – just like they are your evolution – be careful what you mock, when you really agree with the agenda.

I'm sorry if I don't take their alarmist reporting seriously, and it's no surprise that there's only two doctors (one of which is the girl's father) in the Time article that even raises the possibility of an autism link, which has already been debunked by all current research. The article itself says: Dr. John Shoffner, the Atlanta-based neurologist who identified Hannah Poling's mitochondrial disorder, is "genuinely puzzled" by the court's judgment. Shoffner, who has been studying and treating these disorders for 20 years, says it's impossible to say whether Hannah's mitochondrial disorder was, in fact, a pre-existing condition that set the stage for her autism (as the government contends) or if it developed along with her autism. A specialist in mitochondrial disorders, he is investigating the relationship between autism and these disorders and plans to present a paper on the topic at the annual meeting of the American Academy of Neurology in April. "In some subset of people with ASD — a small group of patients, I think — mitochondrial dysfunction is an important part of their disease. But it's too early to say whether it gets the ball rolling or if it comes about after the ball got rolling."

Aren’t you at all curious why the government is defending the vaccine manufacturers? He contradicts himself as well. It’s impossible, or it’s too early to say?

In fact in med school potential doctors are only told that vaccines are good –
Dr. Bob Sears:
After all, why not just ask your doctor if vaccines are absolutely necessary and safe and leave it at that? It takes all of one minute, then you’re done. No research or effort on your part is needed. Here’s the problem with that approach. Doctors, myself included, learn a lot about diseases in medical school, but we learn very little about vaccines, other than the fact that the FDA and pharmaceutical companies do extensive research on vaccines to make sure they are safe and effective. We don’t review the research ourselves. We never learn what goes into making vaccines or how their safety is studied. We trust and take it for granted that the proper researchers are doing their job. So, when patients want a little more information about shots, all we can really say as doctors is that the diseases are bad and the shots are good. But we don’t know enough to answer all of your detailed questions http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/health-concerns/vaccines/inside-vaccine-book

How many times does it have to happen for it to be a “cause”?

I am glad to see that you've largely graduated from posting dubious anti-vax blogs to mainstream media articles. The problem is that the mainstream media can in many cases be as big a disseminator of pseudoscience as your blogs. The Japanese stopped using the MMR, not because of autism (but nice try to make it just about autism) but because of 1.8 million children had been given two types of MMR and a record number developed non-viral meningitis and other adverse reactions. You're right, it wasn't because of autism, and I didn't say it was. I just thought it was an interesting aside to cite the Japanese study that showed no autism correlation to MMR. The Japanese triple shot was discontinued because of negative reactions to a specific strain of the mumps compoonent, reactions that had already caused problems in the UK who had also discontinued it. As far as I can tell there were 3 deaths out of the 1.8 million vaccinations, and those were likely due to some of the MMR vaccines being given after their expiration date. So that’s less deaths than you claim in some years of measles in the states, does that make it deadly or not? Japan has the highest incidence of measles of any industrialized country. The Japanese epidemics are a great example of why your lackadaisical approach to measles hurts the rest of us who are responsible with our health. People like you always say "If you're vaccinated, why do you care if I'm not?" Well, here's why: Japanese measles epidemic brings campuses to standstill

Ahem, don’t lok now http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00000359.htm
And by the way – it’s only the measles, when “they” want it to be reported as the measles –
“Dr. Michael Cooper, manager of the state's infectious-disease program, said the first test was meant to indicate whether the girl's disease was bacterial or viral, with the second test determining its genetic characterization.
"This was the test that told us the strain -- it's an A strain, which is a vaccine strain,"
"It means we haven't had a case of measles in Alaska since 2000 still, and that's great," http://www.ktuu.com/news/news/state-measles-test-on-alaska-girl-comes-back-negative/30969730

Has measles been eliminated from the United States? A: Yes. In 2000, the United States declared that measles was eliminated from this country. The United States was able to eliminate measles because it has a highly effective measles vaccine, a strong vaccination program that achieves high vaccine coverage in children and a strong public health system for detecting and responding to measles cases and outbreaks. Q: What does "measles elimination" mean? A: Measles elimination is defined as the absence of continuous disease transmission for 12 months or more in a specific geographic area. Measles is no longer endemic (constantly present) in the United States.

Still on the CDC website, so much to do about nothing - imported and vaccination shedding is what is causing the current outbreak. Not the unvaccinated kids.

The rest of your post goes back and forth, it’s apparently ok for pharmaceutical companies to make money, but not for individuals such as Dr. Fletcher. Dr. Fletcher was doing it dishonestly based on fraudulent research. Big difference.

This is your opinion, not fact. We've already discussed that John Walker-Smith was completely exonerated - I think you may have Dr. Fletcher and Dr. Thorson mixed up. Dr. Thorson is the one on the run from extradition, for falsifying data and misappropriation of millions in grant money, trying to prove, not that vaccines are safe, but that Wakefield was wrong.

Your information doesn’t debunk anything - it adds to the complete picture. Debunking you is easy. Most of the time your sources don't say the things you claim they do, and you post only part of the story and quote things incompletely or out of context and claim that that's evidence. You can keep lining up the bowling pins for me and I'll keep knocking them down.

So you say…although I suspect there's enough doubt in your brain that you try to re-assure yourself that what you're doing to your kids isn't going to result in ill effects. at what point, do you have the right to say "I don't want that for my kid?"