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To: ansel12

That’s pretty funny, but you get my point.

It’s not the business of the USA to get entangled in a conflict between Ukraine and Russia.

So, I will not volunteer for Russia, just like you won’t volunteer for Ukraine.


7 posted on 02/09/2015 4:43:24 PM PST by CharleysPride (non chiedere cio che non si puo prendere)
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To: CharleysPride

No, I don’t get your point at all.

I have two honorable discharges and my son has one and my dad had one, and my brothers and step brother all have one.

All of us except my dad served to protect this countries from Russia primarily, as Americans, a member of the NATO alliance to defend us and our allies and the world from Russia.

Right now Russia is invading Ukraine to enslave them forever and to move their Army right up to NATO borders and better their strategic position, as they try to rebuild themselves to become the threat again, that they were just a few years ago.

Rebuilding the evil empire isn’t something to ignore and allow to happen.


8 posted on 02/09/2015 4:51:51 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: CharleysPride
So, I will not volunteer for Russia, just like you won’t volunteer for Ukraine.

Straw man fallacy.

The issue is about sending weapons, not troops.

17 posted on 02/09/2015 5:38:19 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: CharleysPride

Oh, well, then you oppose our part in completely disarming Ukraine of the 3rd largest nuclear inventory in the world, in return for a promise of protection.

That was done for darn good reasons (except maybe that we should have left Ukraine with a few easily monitored nukes?)

But, that aside, if we had not been involved, either none of this present aggression by Russia would be happening, or, a large part of that region, and maybe more, would presently be glowing. Plus a significant part of Ukraine’s former inventory could well be MIA prior to all that.

Like it or not, if one supports the idea of Ukraine NOT having a big pile of nukes, then one cannot run away when the Russians begin acting like Russians again. In the long run, the consequences of saying “it’s not our business” are likely worse than if we’d just left the nukes in Ukraine.

Frying pan, meet fire.


23 posted on 02/09/2015 6:23:24 PM PST by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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