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To: dware

Right.

You seem to have little knowledge of how a Convention of the States is set up.

It does not open up the Constitution to a complete rewrite. It is simply another means of proposing amendments to the Constitution. It does not mean there are no pitfalls and possible traps in this type of approach. It simply means it is a better alternative than open rebellion or continued reliance on elections of Congressmen and Senators to enact the will of the people. They have been proved to be ineffective or simply too beholden to their own self interests to do so.

It would simply bypass congress. It would not rely on 2/3 of the Congress to propose amendments. The States would call for a Convention and appoint those who would participate. The Convention could propose one amendment or one thousand amendments. None would become part of the Constitution without first passing 3/4 (75%) 38 of the state legislatures.

That does not mean that all the amendments would be Conservative in nature, but since the delegates would be chosen by the state legislatures and presently 37 of those legislating bodies are Republican controlled, it is very likely that several would be Conservative in nature and those would have a much greater chance of reaching the 3/4 hurdle of approval.

It is a serious plan to reign in the government over reach. Unlike the insanity of espousing open rebellion or holding up in a hole in the ground while the country implodes. That won’t happen.

First sign of mass hysteria and civil unrest and the Left would push for a dictator to control order and a majority of the population would agree as they are little more than lemmings anyway.

Once that happens, your bunker and rifle will effectively be useless, except as a means of suicide by higher authority when the Army, or more likely a well trained police department or National Guard slaughters you with less effort than they would exert while swatting a fly.

You probably wouldn’t even make the evening news unless it was as a cautionary tale against standing up to the all powerful government.


29 posted on 02/11/2015 11:21:58 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town
It does not open up the Constitution to a complete rewrite.

I never said it did. I know what Article V is.

It is simply another means of proposing amendments to the Constitution.

You mean, like the 2nd Amendment, that the Founders included as a means of resisting tyranny? Obama knows what Article V is, too. As I've previously mentioned, he's certainly on board with amending the Constitution.

The States would call for a Convention and appoint those who would participate.

And the moment the left gets wind that their agenda is under threat, do you really think they will keep quiet?

That does not mean that all the amendments would be Conservative in nature

Now you're catching on!

since the delegates would be chosen by the state legislatures and presently 37 of those legislating bodies are Republican controlled

1. You have far too much faith in the GOP, and 2. What makes you think they will vote in your favor? Unless regulations are passed by each state to the contrary, the delegates are under no obligation to vote Conservative.

It is a serious plan to reign in the government over reach.

I agree. BUT - it WON'T be all sunshine and roses, as you guys are touting it to be

Unlike the insanity of espousing open rebellion or holding up in a hole in the ground while the country implodes. That won’t happen.

The Founders espoused open rebellion. Only 3% if the population supported them. I don't plan on holding up in any hole. If it comes down to it, I'll fight to the death for my Country and my rights. If I die in the process, well, at least I can say I actually love my Country and had balls enough to match the Founders legacy.

Apparently, I need to remind you that the Founders were told the VERY same thing you are telling me. They were outnumbered by the most powerful army in the world at the time. There was no way in hell they would ever win.

Well, God works in mysterious ways.

30 posted on 02/11/2015 12:26:26 PM PST by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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